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the ukraine cannot enter under nato rules until the conflict with russia is settled; hence, russia has no interest in ending it.

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Not Finland. They share a border that’s extremely close to Saint Petersburg, Russia’s second largest city.

The Finns “weird” neutrality they’ve kept since 1945 has been beneficial for everyone. Especially the Finns.

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Even if the Russians ended it, it wouldn’t matter…Ukraine is never entering NATO. Takes approval from all members, which they will never get.

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He’s not. The opposite in fact. We just ordered our trainers out of Ukraine.

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Stepan Bandera was recognized a national hero after the Maiden protests which were at minimum 50% far right made this happen during WW2.

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If it wasn’t for Nazi group Azov Battalion they would have never taken back the city of Mariupol from the separatists. They do it mainly because they think Putin is a jew.

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16th and 17th flight of arms to Ukraine in the last few weeks from the US landed earlier today. Another 160ish tons of armaments. Good. I was worried those flights would stop when we started pulling out people out. Keep em coming!

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thank you carnac.

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Wanna make a bet?

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That was a big waste of effort.

Brandon better quit provoking Russia and abusing the Ukraine.

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Is Putin blinking? Or is this a feint before an invasion?

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Putin has possibly weighed the costs/benefits and has seen invasion as a bad path. If so he’s looking for any scrap of an agreement to help him save face. Pretty sure he did not expect the degree of resolve from the EU/US. However, I’m still betting on a bite size invasion of Eastern Ukraine to “protect the Russian speaking minority who live there.”

"Russian President Vladimir Putin said Tuesday that Moscow is ready for security talks with the U.S. and NATO, as the Russian military announced a partial troop withdrawal from drills near Ukraine — new signs that may suggest a Russian invasion of its neighbor isn’t imminent despite snowballing Western fears.

Putin said he doesn’t want war, and called for “peaceful” discussions over Ukraine’s bid to join NATO, which Moscow sees as a major threat. The overtures from Russia offered possible new impetus for diplomatic efforts to ease the worst East-West tensions in decades, which have put Europe on edge and rattled global markets."

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Putin spun Brandon like a top.

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How? Please explain. And who is Brandon?

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Test of will, test of response, test of capability.

That dumbass you voted for

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I thought this was a cool website showing changes in Russian military deployment in real time.

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All of this is extremely expensive for a country as poor as Russia. No way they go home without getting something- diplomatically or militarily.

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I don’t see them leaving and your right they don’t have the money to do this. Either it’s just a big bluff in order to get concessions that continue to go on and on or the military will be used. I highly doubt Putin is just going to go home now and say “Sorry my bad folks” after this.

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Yeah no way- but I’m starting to wonder if Putin has lost the plot. Even a minor invasion would incur heavy sanctions that would cripple Russia’s already weak economy. He’s not going to get the diplomatic big prize of the West saying Ukraine can never be a NATO member or pulling all military from old Soviet Satellite countries. So what can he get diplomatically that will let him save face? Lot of pressure on that old KGB agent.

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EU and NATO came together fine in my opinion. There’s a decent chance Putin just backs down. We’re still in the middle of this. But we didn’t give him what he wanted. Assurance that Ukraine won’t ever join NATO. Because that’s up to Ukraine and NATO.

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They spun each other.

Brandon the incoherent hero.

Where are all those transcripts of the phone calls.

Wouldn’t shut up when it was Trump, now all quiet.

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