Remember when GWB was the devil incarnate?

[Guvnah]

@margaretms2

Huh? What?

What is your evidence that this was Bush’s ad?

And the claim of racism because of the Horton campaign point is based on … what?

Just looking at the ad you linked, where is the racism in it? It’s factual. It’s an example (the worst example) of a horrible result of the Dukakis prison policy. Wouldn’t anyone highlighting a problem with someone’s policies choose to use the worst example to do so?

[vaard]

They have been calling hillary an embodiment of satan for almost 30 years…

[BillBrown]

@margaretms2

@DougBH

Yep. GHW Bush was called a racist for Willie Horton. Something that was totally false because his ads never showed Horton nor made a point of nor mentioned his race.

Huh? What?

Willie Horton 1988 Attack Ad - YouTube

You know who else thought it was a racist ad? Lee Atwater’s old partner, Roger Stone. Think about that for a minute: “And I said, ‘That’s a huge mistake. You and George Bush will wear that to your grave. It’s a racist ad! You’re already winning this issue! It’s working for you! You’re stepping over a line and you’re gonna regret it.”

And you know what? Atwater did regret it: he apologized when he was dying of cancer.

Atwater sent an apology letter to Dukakas.

[BillBrown]

@vaard

They have been calling hillary an embodiment of satan for almost 30 years…

They may be onto something. Think?

[BillBrown]

@SentientBeing

GWB is still a pariah to the Republican party, so much that no one dares utter his name or have him speak at the RNC during elections. History won’t be kind to his Presidency unless they whitewash his legacy like Reagan. Trump’s presidency may undo that sentiment towards Bush as he now doesn’t look so bad on the surface.

You can bet when he passes, the liberal spin machine will be praising him to high heavens.
I’ve seen them do it with Reagan, Ford, McCain and now GHW Bush.
They savaged all of these people when they were alive and healthy.
I think it’s a way of running cover. Like the Devil getting a new hairdo for a funeral.

[reflechissez]

@Guvnah

@margaretms2

Huh? What?

What is your evidence that this was Bush’s ad?

And the claim of racism because of the Horton campaign point is based on … what?

Just looking at the ad you linked, where is the racism in it? It’s factual. It’s an example (the worst example) of a horrible result of the Dukakis prison policy. Wouldn’t anyone highlighting a problem with someone’s policies choose to use the worst example to do so?

How do you know that this was Bush’s ad?
And whether it was or wasn’t, where’s the racism?
And if it racist, so what? Black people killing white people is the worst.

[DougBH]

@BillBrown

@DougBH

Yep. GHW Bush was called a racist for Willie Horton. Something that was totally false because his ads never showed Horton nor made a point of nor mentioned his race.
And then there was the pardon of Weinberger, which would have definitely gotten Trump impeached for obstruction.
The Dem media seems to forget and forgive once a Republican is no longer around.

And yes GWB always had a better personality and talked nicer of people than Trump (who doesn’t?). But then Trump didn’t give us the Iraq war.

His ads did show Willie Horton.
GHW Bush was a very negative campaigner- both in the 1988 primary and the general election. He maintained the kind, gentleman facade and did his dirty work through henchmen- Lee Atwater, John Sununu etc.

I do remember that he used to call Dukakis a bozo. That basically worked, especially after the tank ad by Dukakis.
He pulled the same thing in 1992 and not so much. For one thing neither Clinton nor Perot seemed like bozos, and besides its easier to call one opponent that rather than two.
He did a memorable ad right before the election calling them bozos. It looked silly, IMO. They were just about tied in the polls at that point and I have long suspected that ad may have cost him the election.

[FloridaYankee]

Dubya is a good man who got waylaid by neocons and his own gullibility due to his vindictiveness towards Sadaam Hussein.

His desire to take him out clouded his thinking I suspect.

[BillBrown]

@FloridaYankee

Dubya is a good man who got waylaid by neocons and his own gullibility due to his vindictiveness towards Sadaam Hussein.

His desire to take him out clouded his thinking I suspect.

Then he wasn’t a good man. There is nothing worse a president can do than send thousands of men to die out of personal pique.

[FloridaYankee]

@BillBrown

@FloridaYankee

Dubya is a good man who got waylaid by neocons and his own gullibility due to his vindictiveness towards Sadaam Hussein.

His desire to take him out clouded his thinking I suspect.

Then he wasn’t a good man. There is nothing worse a president can do than send thousands of men to die out of personal pique.

Truly good people can make big mistakes. He was led to believe liberated Iraqis would be throwing roses to the troops etc. He was told there were WMD. He was told democracy would take hold as sure as the sun shines. He fell for it hook, line and sinker.