Remember when global warming was the biggest threat?

WuWei · 2022-09-23T20:27:11.319Z

Auto129:

And the so-called immiseration that followed was simply asking hydrocarbon industries to clean up after themselves.

The revisionism never ends.

WuWei · 2022-09-23T20:27:28.442Z

JayJay:

These aren’t examples of what I was talking about.

The beneficiaries of these acts would be themselves…not others and not far in the future.

Hog wash.

WuWei · 2022-09-23T20:27:55.719Z

Oryx:

WuWei:

“They” should have thought about it before they coupled.

Sure, but that doesn’t help us solve the problem now.

That’s why “they” keep doing it.

WuWei · 2022-09-23T20:30:35.376Z

conan:

WuWei:

Critprogs never consider the consequences of their virtue tantrums.

Precisely, they don’t consider unintended consequences of the fee fees/emotions.

It’s like a child on Halloween.

“If you eat more than a piece or two of that candy a day, you’re going to get sick.”

“It’s my candy and I WANT TO EAT IT ALL!”

Two hours later…

This is what I see when I hear or read them:

giphy3

WuWei · 2022-09-23T20:31:53.752Z

FreeAndClear:

War apparently affects resources.

Never knew that before

Are we at war?

FreeAndClear · 2022-09-23T20:42:29.635Z

WuWei:

FreeAndClear:

War apparently affects resources.

Never knew that before

Are we at war?

The article is about Europe. We are not. Parts of Europe is.

WuWei · 2022-09-23T20:46:52.272Z

Ok, just checking.

Bill.in.PA · 2022-09-23T22:41:54.330Z

Critprogs never consider the consequences of their virtue tantrums. They just flit from virtue signal to signal.

Children throwing tantrums . . .

Speaking of children throwing tantrums, whatever happened to Greta Thunberg?

I found some articles about her protesting against Russia back in March.

Yahoo News

Greta Thunberg's climate activist group to launch protests against Russian...

Fridays for Future, the global youth movement launched by Swedish climate change activist Greta Thunberg, is launching a series of events to protest Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.

Now she is protesting that the Swedish government is ignoring climate issues:

“We have been completely focusing on other things,” she told Reuters.
Greta Thunberg: Swedish politicians are ignoring climate crisis

Climate activists pushed for bans on Russian oil and gas back in February and March. I think they mistakenly believed that people would find that they don’t need fossil fuels. Conservation and clean renewables would magically appear to usher in a golden age.

Instead politicians are realizing that they risk economic collapse and elderly people freezing in their homes if they don’t find alternatives. The available alternatives include dirty fuels like coal and firewood.

Climate considerations are no longer the driving issue; stopping Putin in Ukraine is. Activists like Greta can’t complain about the change in priorities too directly or they risk being labeled traitors / Russian operatives.

Axxowiz · 2022-09-24T00:58:41.024Z

I remember when over population used to be a talking point that has definitely went out the window sometime in the early mid 2000’s.

Bill.in.PA · 2022-09-24T13:35:57.523Z

Instead of a population explosion we are headed towards a population collapse.

A basic problem in Europe is that wind and solar cannot supply all the energy needs without enormous energy-storage projects. Given the intermittent nature of wind and solar, fossil plants are still required until there are practical ways of storing weeks of energy for the electrical grid.

There are wind turbines on practically every hilltop in most of Scotland, yet the Scots are seeing at soaring fuel costs as result of the reduced flow of Russian natural gas. Meanwhile Russians a enjoy plentiful supply of cheap natural gas.

The Big Issue – 28 Feb 23

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GA_LP · 2022-09-24T19:42:25.953Z

The Veruca Salts of the World Unite!

zantax · 2022-09-25T19:01:02.583Z

WuWei:

Bill.in.PA:

The sanctions war and the resulting energy crisis may be used as a pretext to return to COVID-style lockdowns and even more censorship.

Never let a crisis go to waste.

Who benefits from lockdowns?

Oligarchs like Bezos, the lockdowns caused the largest transfer of wealth to the billionaire class ever seen.

Bill.in.PA · 2022-10-26T20:20:22.976Z

UPDATE: Germany replaces a wind farm with an expanded open-pit coal mine.

ZeroHedge

"A Paradoxical Situation": Germany Is Dismantling A Wind Farm To Make Way For...

"We realize this comes across as paradoxical. But that is as matters stand."

Where is Gretta now?

C-SPAN.org

User Clip: GRETTA THUNBERG HOW DARE YOU CC

GRETTA THUNBERG HOW DARE YOU CC

Will German coal executives send a thank you note to Biden for ending the supply of cheap Russian natural gas?

zantax · 2022-10-26T21:45:35.919Z

I pointed out this flaw in the global warming thing a long time ago. How in the world can politicians who deliberately try and make their citizens poorer stay in office in a democracy? Either the democracy part goes or the people replace the leaders who go that route.

Axxowiz · 2022-10-26T23:36:06.143Z

The reason I started doubting it recently is on one hand you hear the world will be destroyed in ‘x’ amount of years and at the same time when they are asked what should be done about the biggest emitter China the answer goes something like this. “Well China is a developing country so they have to be allowed to grow even using coal”.

One of the statements is ■■■■ but frivolously thrown around regardless even though they contradict each other.

RTchoke · 2022-10-27T02:39:04.972Z

Axxowiz:

The reason I started doubting it recently is on one hand you hear the world will be destroyed in ‘x’ amount of years and at the same time when they are asked what should be done about the biggest emitter China the answer goes something like this. “Well China is a developing country so they have to be allowed to grow even using coal”.

One of the statements is ■■■■ but frivolously thrown around regardless even though they contradict each other.

When you spend 45+ years hearing the same crap about how we are going to die in x years and those times come and go many times like some of us have, you learn to ignore those so called experts.

Impenitent · 2022-10-27T09:30:46.438Z

RTchoke:

Axxowiz:

The reason I started doubting it recently is on one hand you hear the world will be destroyed in ‘x’ amount of years and at the same time when they are asked what should be done about the biggest emitter China the answer goes something like this. “Well China is a developing country so they have to be allowed to grow even using coal”.

One of the statements is ■■■■ but frivolously thrown around regardless even though they contradict each other.

When you spend 45+ years hearing the same crap about how we are going to die in x years and those times come and go many times like some of us have, you learn to ignore those so called experts.

and that’s exactly why the schools have been teaching history and critical thinking…

oh wait…

Bill.in.PA · 2022-10-27T12:45:52.130Z

Whether the threat is from Putin or from global warming, the response has been the same–strangle western economies and silence anyone who complains.

It is as if the people of America and Europe are the real target.

twitter.com

Daily Caller

@DailyCaller

BIDEN: "This is not a joke. You what the Joint Chiefs told us the greatest threat facing America was? Global warming." https://t.co/apH7RtQWft

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Gaius · 2022-10-31T14:44:13.292Z

Blame the West
Blame corporations
Blame the West
Blame corporations
Blame the West
Blame corporations . . .

Or, check the data AND THEN* form an opinion.
The choice is yours.
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Bill.in.PA · 2022-10-31T15:33:03.738Z

China is the 800-lb gorilla when it comes to global warming emissions. Its emissions are more than that of North America and Europe put together. India’s admissions are about where China’s were 30 years ago and rapidly growing.

Strangling the economies of Europe and North America will not do anything unless China and India reduce emissions.