Remember it was supposed to only be TWO WEEEKS?

gooddad409 · 2020-05-22T13:30:27.654Z

tnt:

thinkingman:

thats incorrect

the response to it is

and no one knows… NO ONE if it all even helps

With/without mitigation, we are heading to depression level economic disaster.

Only if we stay shut down which we are not going to do. People are rapidly starting to refuse to do so. My hat is off to them!

p.s. Of note 1200 clergymen in CA have announced reopening this weekend minus old Gavin’s permission. Good for them!

PP can be open but not churches? How screwed up is that?!

thinkingman · 2020-05-22T13:30:51.553Z

Konssurvative1:

Yeah…to a large extent…i mean, I’m not going to do anything risky. I’m not going to take my wife to our favorite Italian place anytime soon…shes extremely high risk…so I don’t see any point. But I will order take out from them.

that makes sense

but it’s time to stop cowering and ruining society

gooddad409 · 2020-05-22T13:34:03.955Z

thinkingman:

Konssurvative1:

Yeah…to a large extent…i mean, I’m not going to do anything risky. I’m not going to take my wife to our favorite Italian place anytime soon…shes extremely high risk…so I don’t see any point. But I will order take out from them.

that makes sense

but it’s time to stop cowering and ruining society

I agree. Time to quit cowering. I’m high risk but i am eating out now and then. The restaurants are doing a great job of isolating customers and wiping things down with the disinfectants.

mobulis · 2020-05-22T13:49:20.729Z

thinkingman:

mobulis:

thinkingman:

mobulis:

thinkingman:

mobulis:

thinkingman:

mobulis:

thinkingman:

tnt:

gooddad409:

Clearly Collateral damage in the eyes of some.

Not concerned about th collateral damage of staying open though, are you?

So no your not.

yep

i‘m concerned about auto accidents too

No your not, image proves it.

calling me a liar?

I’m saying the image is contradictory to your statement.

ah ok. no it’s not

you might not like that it accurately portrays something else though, hence turning it back on me

Except it doesn’t.

awe youre upset by its message

i understand

No you don’t.

Konssurvative1 · 2020-05-22T13:54:56.651Z

I think that each state has to be aware of hotspots and be willing to keep things closed accordingly. And open when safe to do so.

Konssurvative1 · 2020-05-22T13:56:46.744Z

That’s good for you. My wife has one functioning lung. I’m not doing anything to risk her life. I’m not cowering…but I’m not being stupid either.

gooddad409 · 2020-05-22T14:02:54.522Z

Konssurvative1:

That’s good for you. My wife has one functioning lung. I’m not doing anything to risk her life. I’m not cowering…but I’m not being stupid either.

My commentary is mostly aimed at folks who seem to want to keep things down to control others. The Whitmer types.

That cannot be allowed to stand.

Your wife has a legitimate reason not to get out. Don’t blame her.

thinkingman · 2020-05-22T14:07:05.587Z

mobulis:

thinkingman:

mobulis:

thinkingman:

mobulis:

thinkingman:

mobulis:

thinkingman:

mobulis:

thinkingman:

tnt:

gooddad409:

Clearly Collateral damage in the eyes of some.

Not concerned about th collateral damage of staying open though, are you?

So no your not.

yep

i‘m concerned about auto accidents too

No your not, image proves it.

calling me a liar?

I’m saying the image is contradictory to your statement.

ah ok. no it’s not

you might not like that it accurately portrays something else though, hence turning it back on me

Except it doesn’t.

awe youre upset by its message

i understand

No you don’t.

oh, i definitely do. lol. trust me

sorry you disagree about the meme that portrays the robotic leftist response

(and sorry i took all you meaningless posts back to that)

mobulis · 2020-05-22T14:07:34.492Z

thinkingman:

mobulis:

thinkingman:

mobulis:

thinkingman:

mobulis:

thinkingman:

mobulis:

thinkingman:

mobulis:

thinkingman:

tnt:

gooddad409:

Clearly Collateral damage in the eyes of some.

Not concerned about th collateral damage of staying open though, are you?

So no your not.

yep

i‘m concerned about auto accidents too

No your not, image proves it.

calling me a liar?

I’m saying the image is contradictory to your statement.

ah ok. no it’s not

you might not like that it accurately portrays something else though, hence turning it back on me

Except it doesn’t.

awe youre upset by its message

i understand

No you don’t.

oh, i definitely do. lol. trust me

I don’t.

thinkingman · 2020-05-22T14:09:07.992Z

dont care

kermode · 2020-05-22T14:16:11.408Z

thinkingman:

my hero?

nah. my president. yours too

did you mean “ineffective” instead of “effeminate”

Your hero must think they’re effective.
He makes everyone around him wear one.
Not him though.

thinkingman · 2020-05-22T14:21:47.778Z

kermode:

thinkingman:

my hero?

nah. my president. yours too

did you mean “ineffective” instead of “effeminate”

Your hero must think they’re effective.
He makes everyone around him wear one.
Not him though.

why do you insist on repeatedly making this personal?

kermode · 2020-05-22T14:27:19.739Z

thinkingman:

why do you insist on repeatedly making this personal?

Fair point. I’ll amend.
Trump supporters’ hero must think they’re effective.

thinkingman · 2020-05-22T14:28:27.549Z

kermode:

thinkingman:

why do you insist on repeatedly making this personal?

Fair point. I’ll amend.
Trump supporters’ hero must think they’re effective.

there you go

no they prob realize they are not

gooddad409 · 2020-05-22T15:13:17.542Z

kermode:

thinkingman:

why do you insist on repeatedly making this personal?

Fair point. I’ll amend.
Trump supporters’ hero must think they’re effective.

Was Obama your hero?

kermode · 2020-05-22T15:27:31.521Z

gooddad409:

Was Obama your hero?

Voted for him in 2008, 3rd party in '12.
Great family man, decent but flawed President like most of them.
If he spent all morning till 11 watching TV and tweeting about how mean people are to him and how his polls suck in the middle of a pandemic, I don’t think I’d like that.
You?

gooddad409 · 2020-05-22T15:55:38.472Z

kermode:

gooddad409:

Was Obama your hero?

Voted for him in 2008, 3rd party in '12.
Great family man, decent but flawed President like most of them.
If he spent all morning till 11 watching TV and tweeting about how mean people are to him and how his polls suck in the middle of a pandemic, I don’t think I’d like that.
You?

I didn’t like the Alinsky style purposeful divisiveness of Obama.

He divided along any and all lines he could think of. Especially race.Reminded me of Sharpton in that respect.

Identity politics some call it.

Plus there was the apology tours which many of us didn’t appreciate.

The red line in the sand which he quickly backed down from. The refusal to look at the radical elements of Islam as the enemy.

The constant rhetoric about guns…and gun owners really.

The really bad deals he negotiated.

Two pro “choice” justices to the SC.

The corruptness in his administration to the point of spying on the other party candidate among other things. I could write a novel on the corruptness but what would be the point? The left refuses to listen anyway.

I could go on and on and on but you probably get the gist.

Worst prez since Carter. IMO.

I don’t like everything about Trump but I certainly like most of his policies and his judicial picks.

PAmoderate37 · 2020-05-22T16:09:13.348Z

gooddad409:

I didn’t like the Alinsky style purposeful divisiveness of Obama.

He divided along any and all lines he could think of. Especially race.Reminded me of Sharpton in that respect.

Identity politics some call it.

Plus there was the apology tours which many of us didn’t appreciate.

The red line in the sand which he quickly backed down from. The refusal to look at the radical elements of Islam as the enemy.

The constant rhetoric about guns…and gun owners really.

The really bad deals he negotiated.

Two pro “choice” justices to the SC.

The corruptness in his administration to the point of spying on the other party candidate among other things. I could write a novel on the corruptness but what would be the point? The left refuses to listen anyway.

I could go on and on and on but you probably get the gist.

Worst prez since Carter. IMO.

I don’t like everything about Trump but I certainly like most of his policies and his judicial picks.

I hear this all the time. Obama divided us based on race. I most be missing something. I never felt that he divided by race. What did he do that divided us by race?

I hated the apology tour too, but being buddies with Putin, Kim Jung-un and others is every bit as bad if not worse.

Yep, the red line thing was dumb, you don’t make statements like that and then not back it up. I personally don’t like Islam, but I understand where he was coming from. Nobody would ever blame all Fundamental Christians if a group of them started murdering people.

The lefts verbal assault on the 2nd Amendment doesn’t bother me because as far as I am concerned it’s just rhetoric. The 2nd isn’t going anywhere.

Pro Choice Justices are good.

gooddad409 · 2020-05-22T16:18:17.771Z

PAmoderate37:

gooddad409:

I didn’t like the Alinsky style purposeful divisiveness of Obama.

He divided along any and all lines he could think of. Especially race.Reminded me of Sharpton in that respect.

Identity politics some call it.

Plus there was the apology tours which many of us didn’t appreciate.

The red line in the sand which he quickly backed down from. The refusal to look at the radical elements of Islam as the enemy.

The constant rhetoric about guns…and gun owners really.

The really bad deals he negotiated.

Two pro “choice” justices to the SC.

The corruptness in his administration to the point of spying on the other party candidate among other things. I could write a novel on the corruptness but what would be the point? The left refuses to listen anyway.

I could go on and on and on but you probably get the gist.

Worst prez since Carter. IMO.

I don’t like everything about Trump but I certainly like most of his policies and his judicial picks.

I hear this all the time. Obama divided us based on race. I most be missing something. I never felt that he divided by race. What did he do that divided us by race?

I hated the apology tour too, but being buddies with Putin, Kim Jung-un and others is every bit as bad if not worse.

Yep, the red line thing was dumb, you don’t make statements like that and then not back it up. I personally don’t like Islam, but I understand where he was coming from. Nobody would ever blame all Fundamental Christians if a group of them started murdering people.

The lefts verbal assault on the 2nd Amendment doesn’t bother me because as far as I am concerned it’s just rhetoric. The 2nd isn’t going anywhere.

Pro Choice Justices are good.

If you didn’t notice the race division you must have slept through the Obama years. You didn’t notice him rushing to judgment every time there was a controversial incident involving a black person? Usually got it all wrong by doing so but the riots had already occurred by then.

Ferguson(hands up don’t shoot) ring any bells for example? Baltimore?

Your example of blaming all Christians is flawed. The problem was not one of blaming all muslims but Obama wouldn’t even condemn the radicals to any extent. Used to question whose side he was on quite often.

Pro Choice judges vote along the lines of keeping the mass killing of the unborn legal.

Quite the opposite of good.

zantax · 2020-05-22T16:24:24.149Z

tnt:

zantax:

Sweden never locked down their economy and their hospitals were never overwhelmed. The only thing they did was shut down large gatherings.

And they have suffered seriously economically.

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If Sweden’s aim was, in part, to tolerate somewhat higher casualties in hope of limiting the economic damage, however, its experiment has uncertain prospects. The European Commission forecast this month that Sweden, Denmark and Finland’s economies will all contract by around 6 per cent this year; Sweden was forecast to end up with higher unemployment, and a faster increase, than its two neighbours.

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Pfft, six percent. Hey any idea what the trillions we spent in paying people staying home is as a percent of our GDP?