Any opinions on this? Of course I have strong opinions on this, but I’d like to see others opinions.
Apparently, I’ve been doing this my entire life and didn’t know it. I do what’s expected of me, nothing more. I do what I’m being paid to do, ill need a reason to do more.
~13.8 billion years ago, the entire universe was condensed into a speck so small that it had no dimensions. And then, for no reason what-so-ever, in the time it takes for you to read this sentence, exploded itself into an incomprehensibly large universe, preloaded with all the energy required for all the matter that will ever exist, complete with fundamental forces to govern that existence.
Somewhere in that galactic climax, consciousness was formed, traveled through eons of self-perpetuating chaos until it emerged here, where it got tangled up in Earth’s evolutionary process, churning and churning through biological prototypes until it settled into one advanced enough to recognize that it itself is the universe experiencing itself from this filtered perspective.
And we work long hours in order to have enough money to get to work. 
union employees dont usually get fired.
been a union employee for 36 years and i have only seen a handful (less than 5) in those. (watching porn or stealing are huge no-no at ATT)
other than that union employees skate.
Allan
everyone in my office gets left alone.
just dont do POEs (network effecting events reportable to the FCC)
and everyone gets a pass.
Allan
And that’s just one factor in the direct inverse correlation between national productivity and unionization.
It’s just lazy rebranded.
Sometimes its laziness but when I had an hourly team I would never let them work off the clock no matter how much they wanted to. Plus its illegal to work for no pay not to mention unethical.
If a leader creates a positive working environment and treats their team/workers like human beings then this type of minimum effort attitude disappears. Those that continue to demonstrate this attitude become very visible to everyone snd effective coaching can take place.
It’s not lazy . It’s just not working for free. If companies want employee to do work when they are not in the office or their off time then make em salaries and put that in their contract or pay them for all the time they any work including but not limited to: email, phone calls, meeting, travel, report edits.
Companies just need to pay up or shut up.
OK. Add dumb to the people working for free.
At my job an employee got in trouble for watching porn in the booth while collecting tolls. He didn’t even get a day suspension. As far as stealing goes, I don’t know of any job that doesn’t immediately fire someone for that.
thats simply not true.
Allan
Oh cool. Another post of ignorance from you.
Just say, “We’ll have to disagree,” like you usually do when you’re wrong, and move on.
not ignorance. just looking at the facts.
you are biased against unions. its okay to admit that and move on.
Allan
This right here. It’s not just about putting in time you’re not getting paid for. It’s about how well you do your job. In my 35 years of employment since entering the workforce at 18, only a two year period would I describe my work environment as you’ve described. Those remain the best two years I’ve ever worked. Everyone did more during their shift. No one hated going to work. But you rarely see those positive environments at union jobs, sadly.
Back in the late 80s I worked at New Jersey Bell (now Verizon). We had to process 550 phone bills an hour on a machine. My normal, comfortable pace was 650-700 an hour. That’s with taking some stretch breaks. Maybe even walking around a bit.
A supervisor walks over to me and says, “Pete, it’s not what you do, it’s how you look doing it”. That’s all I needed to hear. They got the straight 550 from me. I’ll always remember that.
well … YOUR “facts”, anyway.
Given your embedded lack of credibility around here, your “facts” aren’t worth the bytes it takes to display them in your posts.
Are airlines more or less productive now then they were 50 years ago?
How did they get caught?
Oh cool. You’re going to pretend that a specific example represents NATIONAL PRODUCTIVITY. (Please try to keep up with what I actually said, mmkay?)
Taking lessons from Alan, are you?
Interesting. I’m now retired going on three years. My last year of employment, leading up to my retirement was essentially one of quiet quitting.
I had pretty much finished training my replacements and they were doing the bulk of the work for experience. I was working from home full time and checked in every day. Occasionally, I would get involved if something needed my expertise. But for the most part I spent the better part of each day surfing the web.
