Questions on greatness

Thank you Trump. :wink:

Well to be fair, that story is dated Aug. '16 - during Obama’s presidency :wink:

This from the party listening to the sage like wisdom of 29 year old Alexandria Ocazio-Cortez and the other 3 of her squad… :roll_eyes:

The “dream” of the United States is great. All men (meaning all people, obviously) being created equal - given equal opportunities, etc.

The reality has not lived up to the dream - for example the African Ameican experience up until the 1970s when civil rights really took hold.

Instead of “Make America Great Again,” Trump’s slogan would have been better (if he’d intended to live up to it) as Making America Great for All Citizens.

Is a 29-year old too young to have sage wisdom?

By and large, yes. Especially since she apparently was weaned on the rantings of Uber idiot and hypocrite Al Gore. You know, the guy that made 150 million dollars screeching about the imminent melting of the polar ice caps and the submerging of coastal cities by 2013? UNLESS WE TOOK DRASTIC ACTION!!!

That you take her sage wisdom on ANYTHING, demonstrates my point perfectly. I couldn’t have done it better myself… Thank you!

Three more years of peace. New record.

Yes. Yes it is.

No wonder you and I love him so much :love_you_gesture:

I can’t stand him. It’s lib tears I’m after.

I’ll grant that America has not always been perfect in every way for everyone. But, as we have been discussing in this thread, greatness is different for each person.

You always seem to go back to slavery and the lack of civil rights in almost every thread. No one has disagreed with the idea that slavery was a tremendous blot on our history. But it was ended in 1865 and though we haven’t rid society of the bigotry that exists at the individual level ( nor will we ever), the life of African Americans is, by any measurement, much better than it was even 50 years ago.

If you can’t see and admit this, then the problem is more with you than society. Do you believe Donald Trump, Congress or the supreme Court can legislate all bigotry out of existence? And if that COULD be, and was done, that is your criteria for American greatness?

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More TDS…

What’s the minimum age to have wisdom worth listening to?

  1. 50 should about do it. Half a century.

I like sneakys answer!

Seriously though, let me ask you- do you accept her expertise on climate? Meteorology? Chemistry? Do you accept her as an expert on anything whatsoever? If you do, I’d like to know what and why.

From what I’ve heard, she is a former bar tender. I’m not in any way dissing bar tenders, I’m just pointing out that tending bar does not bestow a lot of knowledge on people that would qualify them as experts on anything else.

I give her Kudos for getting elected to Congress. That’s an achievement. But that also doesn’t magically bestow knowledge or expertise on anything to anyone.

What is it about her that you guys have made her the voice of the Democrat party?

Now that’s a fair trade off.

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No, of course not, she is not an expert in any of those fields. I think she’s useful for shifting the Overton window.

No liberal I know has done any such thing. She’s a voice. Not the voice.

Conservatives put more time into listening to what she has to say than any liberal I know.

Alright, let’s throw out any opinions and work of the founders who were under 50.

I mean, why would we want to put so much stock into what they had to say? They obviously didn’t have any wisdom to bestow.

I think you’re confusing me with someone else.

I don’t think I’ve ever mentioned slavery before.

That’s the way it was back then. There’d been slavery since the beginning of time. And black Africans were selling their own people into slavery for hundreds of years - that’s usually ignored.

What I have always thought egregious was the US treatment of blacks after the Civil War onward.

Having said that, I am an opponent of reparations. I don’t think they’re deserved or needed. But I think we’re moving towards having to pay them…stupid as it may be.