Question for Critprogs

[thinkingman]

@Orygun

So you support policies put forth by Progressives from 1900-1930?

no i think we should still prohibit women voting and make 10 year olds work the mines

eyeroll

[Orygun]

@thinkingman

no i think we should still prohibit women voting and make 10 year olds work the mines

eyeroll

OK name me the things on that list that are baaaad. Hey maybe if you support enough of them…you’re a liberal!

[WuWei]

Those aren’t “progress”.

FDR was the redliner.

[Orygun]

@WuWei

Those aren’t “progress”.

All those are bad huh? If only it could be 1880 again.

[thinkingman]

@Adam

@thinkingman

@Adam

Part of my ideal world is where people have disagreements without thinking the other side is a virus.

mine is where half of society (the precious “left”) doesnt try to “infect” society and destroy it

but i dream too

Ah yes. The left is destroying society. That’s why dialogue rarely exists now. The other side doesn’t just disagree, they’re the enemy and are sick and evil and need to be destroyed. Hard to talk about things in that setting.

well the dialog doesnt exist because the left just think they should impose their agenda. but otherwise this is pretty much it

[WuWei]

Where are you “progessing” me to?

It goes far beyond policy.

[Orygun]

@WuWei

Where are you “progessing” me to?

Read the list- a lot has already been done.

[WuWei]

@Adam

The left is destroying society

Which society? “The left” is a society. A collectivist society.

[WuWei]

@Orygun

@WuWei

Where are you “progessing” me to?

Read the list- a lot has already been done.

What does it look like when it’s finished?

[FreeAndClear]

@WuWei

@FreeAndClear

@WuWei

@FreeAndClear

I don’t have an ideal world,

You see why that might be a problem?

Yes of course. Its a huge problem. That’s why true believers are a scary group. They actually believe that there is some ideal state.

Like a polite society…

Nonsense. Nobody has ever been able to describe it. The founders of this neo-Marxism claim it can’t be described because they are still oppressed.

People tend to get real polite when there are immediate consequences to their impoliteness. Of course there are other societies that will stay on the margins… or beyond.

“Politer society” maybe be more appropriate.

Now feel free to describe your “Utopia-er Society.”

So far so good… from my perspectie. I want to see complete reform of how spending that is already allocated, i want to see continuing environmental regulations. Not because of climate change but because i like clean air and clean water. My issue with all my dreams is that the burecracy is too big and too strong and too entrenched for any of this to be done correctly and with as little spending as possible

I also want people to thinking the private sector is the solution to our ills.

[WuWei]

@Orygun

@WuWei

Those aren’t “progress”.

All those are bad huh? If only it could be 1880 again.

All of those are unnecessary.

[Orygun]

@WuWei

What does it look like when it’s finished?

My sense is if you are a dyed in the wool lefty, the Defense budget would be cut , taxes would be raised on the wealthy and corporations and there would be more monies for people in need, for school systems, for mental health care, etc. Reproductive rights would be guaranteed throughout the US and assault rifles would be banned. We would look- a bit more like Canada.

[WuWei]

You are in the weeds, climb out! What does the New US look like?

[Guntsu]

@Orygun

Progressivism- over 100 years of progress…in no particular order.

Ending child labor laws
Workers Rights/Labor Unions
8 Hour work day
Progressive Taxation
National Parks
Social Security
Medicare
Minimum wage
Civil Rights Act
Voting Rights Act
Anti-discrimination laws
Gay Marriage
Food Stamps
Reproductive Rights
Americans with disabilities Act
Environmental Protection Act

Thanks Progressives!

Transformational change, the current crying is from boomers watching society pass them by.

Gotta let em cry it out

[FreeAndClear]

@WuWei

Where are you “progessing” me to?

It goes far beyond policy.

No you are listing policy goals and campaign promises. You saying that this goes far beyond policy is more of that “it’s all neomarxism” nonsense.

[Orygun]

@Guntsu

Gotta let em cry it out

But but but…Venezuela! Cuba! Marx! Che!

[FreeAndClear]

@WuWei

You are in the weeds, climb out! What does the New US look like?

I told you I don’t have an ideal world

[WuWei]

So Canada. Finally an answer!

Canada of today?

[Orygun]

@WuWei

So Canada.

Or Norway and Sweden. Yup.

[WuWei]

@FreeAndClear

@WuWei

You are in the weeds, climb out! What does the New US look like?

I told you I don’t have an ideal world

Do you see why that may be a problem for you?