Proof of the Fermi Paradox here on earth

If it weren’t true we’d have already gone up in a massive nuclear exchange long ago.

There have been numerous opportunities for us to end up in nuclear exchanges but there have always been rational actors to stop those incidents from ending in a total nuclear exchange.

Because of luck. One troop collapses and the fight goes the other way…end of story.

Alexander doesnt take over Persia we dont have his reign. Gengus Khan doesnt escape one battle they dont create one of the largest empires ever… it’s not always about crushing.

You’re just making things up again. Individual soldiers don’t determine the outcome of battles, wars, or campaigns.

Nobody wants to believe it, but that was the whole premise of MADD.

The discussion was fallacious from the get go. The Fermi Paradox is about the paradox between the high probability that intelligent alien life exists in the universe vs. having found no evidence for it, not limited vs. all out nuclear war.

MADD was based on high yield weapons, not the use of low yield tactical nukes.

It also ignored the very real issue we have today of rogue regimes and even terrorist groups using nukes.

Its war games stuff…

Oh aliens are out there

MADD still works with low yield weapons. Unless one side either has no nuclear weapons or also has low yield weapons with which to engage in a limited nuclear war, the war will become all out.

Say we use a 5kt low yield bomb on a tactical target. The smallest bomb they have is 25kt and they retaliate with it by taking out a sub base, which also destroys the nearby towns. We say “Hey! That wasn’t called for” so we hit them back with a 50kt bomb killing millions f civilians. Then since they see that they can’t win unless they they come back with everything they have, they do so. We, recognizing that when those missiles get to their targets, several major cities and their residents will be gone, we launch everything we have at them.

It would be very unlikely that the use of a small, low yield nuclear bomb against another nuclear power would not result in mutual destruction not only of we and that country, but most of the rest of the world as well.

I believe you … the probability is extremely high. But where is the evidence? That’s the paradox.

Which is the kind of overreaction that would result in their complete annihilation. The leaders of those nations understand that would be the result.

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Exactly! MADD

No not really, it’s how a nation could get away with the use of a small low yield weapon.

It becomes even more likely when the nation using it has anti ballistic missile capability.

And the opponent has no nuclear weapons.

I agree…the distance between systems makes it really hard on species to connect at our current level

No.

If they have no similar low yield weapons to retaliate with the knowledge that retaliating with a grossly disproportional strike would assure their complete and utter destruction is what would give you the opportunity to use the low yield weapon.

They’d have to instead retaliate with conventional weapons, sanctions or otherwise.

You are assuming that they think like you do. There is a very good chance that they don’t. If they did, it here almost certainly would not have been a war in the first place.

Sad to say, even though that story is great, it is probably not true.

Sigh…Google Proud Prophet.

Everyone made rational decisions up to the point of the full exchange.

It scared the ■■■■ out of everyone right up to Reagan.

Escalation is escalation.

De-escalation is a stupid concept.

Use a nuke…any nuke…and the door is open to a full exchange.

Especially since, as has been said repeatedly, the mini nuke rides on the same type of missile as the city buster.

And yet in the fog of war, you think everyone will be on the ball and at their best.

PS you just contradicted yourself from post to post. You stated using a nuke on an army warrants a full response.

That’s what tactical nukes are freakin’ for!

But to me you call them “a deterrent”.

Sigh…

Nukes are for having, not for using.

That is why a low yield is silly.

There will be no nuclear exchange with Russia. There was never going to be either.

It’s fun to scare oneself with the internet though, I get it. lol

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