Progs and Elon Musk

[WuWei]

@TheDoctorIsIn

@WuWei

You have convinced yourself you’re going to get Norway.

You are ignoring the population. It will be Venezuela. It’s already started.

There’s a whole lot of nonsense in this that I don’t accept as premises, so they’re not really worth discussing.

But I would like to comment on the “Norway vs. Venezuela” dichotomy.

Are those the only possibilities?

Not at all, your participation is welcome.

What is nonsense in that or anything else I have said?

[WuWei]

@WuWei

Would you make a single commodity the commons?

Or if you prefer, what would you exclude?

[WuWei]

@TheDoctorIsIn

@WuWei

She. You never read it.

I think you missed the joke.

Probably.

[TheDoctorIsIn]

@WuWei

Probably.

There is another “Rand”, who is relevant, politically.

[WuWei]

@PeterGriffin

Still not as funny as taking “Atlas Shrugged” seriously. Nothing will ever be that funny.

Tell me something; what is different about the state Rand described and Venezuela today? Or the causes.

[WuWei]

@TheDoctorIsIn

@WuWei

Probably.

There is another “Rand”, who is relevant, politically.

Ok. I’m not discussing him either.

[conan]

Oddly enough wasn’t some of biggest banks that gave us 2008 housing crises?

[WuWei]

@TheDoctorIsIn

There’s a whole lot of nonsense in this that I don’t accept as premises

Like what?

[Jezcoe]

@WuWei

@Jezcoe

@WuWei

@Jezcoe

@WuWei

You have convinced yourself you’re going to get Norway.

You are ignoring the population. It will be Venezuela.

The reason I haven’t addressed this should be self evident.

It’s not. People matter. Culture matters. You could probably get Norway, America can’t.

“Culture”.

I understand

Yes culture. Most of America, especially those you seek to “help” are not like you.

“Not like me”

Interesting

[WuWei]

@Jezcoe

“Not like me”

Interesting

No, not like you. At all.

[Jezcoe]

@WuWei

@Jezcoe

“Not like me”

Interesting

No, not like you. At all.

Interesting.

[WuWei]

@Jezcoe

@WuWei

@Jezcoe

“Not like me”

Interesting

No, not like you. At all.

Interesting.

Not really. Just a fact.

[Jezcoe]

@WuWei

@Jezcoe

@WuWei

@Jezcoe

“Not like me”

Interesting

No, not like you. At all.

Interesting.

Not really. Just a fact.

Alex, I will take What are things that have never been said in American history before for $200

[TheDoctorIsIn]

@WuWei

Like what?

I believe the record shows that I tried not to go down this off-topic rabbit hole.

@WuWei

You have convinced yourself you’re going to get Norway.

You are ignoring the population. It will be Venezuela. It’s already started.

I don’t accept your premises. I don’t accept that anyone has ever considered a Norway vs. Venezuela dichotomy. I don’t even really understand what the ■■■■ you’re trying to say, half the time.

It’s all nonsense.

[Jezcoe]

@TheDoctorIsIn

@WuWei

Like what?

I believe the record shows that I actively tried not to go down this off-topic rabbit hole.

@WuWei

You have convinced yourself you’re going to get Norway.

You are ignoring the population. It will be Venezuela. It’s already started.

I don’t accept your premises. I don’t accept that anyone has ever considered a Norway vs. Venezuela dichotomy. I don’t even really understand what the ■■■■ you’re trying to say, half the time.

It’s all nonsense.

Remember that time in history when there were a bunch of Papists coming in from Ireland?

Yeah… me too.

[WuWei]

@TheDoctorIsIn

I believe the record shows that I actively tried not to go down this off-topic rabbit hole.

It’s not off topic now that all the experts have admitted they were wrong about Musk.

@TheDoctorIsIn

I don’t accept your premises. I don’t accept that anyone has ever considered a Norway vs. Venezuela dichotomy. I don’t even really understand what the ■■■■ you’re trying to say, half the time.

It’s all nonsense.

It is two polar ends of a spectrum and I am being hyperbolic intentionally.

I believe socialism in Norway works pretty well.

I know socialism in Venezuela is a “dystopian hellscape”.

Which end of the scale are we closer to? That is my point.

The same things being said here by @Jezcoe et al are what I heard there before the fall started. Then the civil unrest and demands came.

Venezuela was not some poor hole. They had a democratic government and voted everything that mattered right into “the commons”. It worked for a while.

They had guaranteed food. Healthcare, etc.

And now look.

[WuWei]

@Jezcoe

Remember that time in history when there were a bunch of Papists coming in from Ireland?

Yeah… me too.

You have completely lost the plot. I haven’t even mentioned “coming in”. I am talking about here now.

What makes you think you’ll get Norway instead of Venezuela? What will stop it?

[Jezcoe]

@WuWei

@Jezcoe

Remember that time in history when there were a bunch of Papists coming in from Ireland?

Yeah… me too.

You have completely lost the plot. I haven’t even mentioned “coming in”. I am talking about here now.

What makes you think you’ll get Norway instead of Venezuela? What will stop it?

People who are here and now.

Interesting.

[WuWei]

@Jezcoe

People who are here and now.

Interesting.

Cultures.

[Jezcoe]

@WuWei

@Jezcoe

People who are here and now.

Interesting.

Cultures.

“Culture”

I understand