Jezcoe
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So it is their fault that there are protests against them?
conan
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No it’s not their fault…they are Biden and democrat party.
They’re one and same.
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I think they’re coming at it from the view that these people are ultimately the result of the left wing system. And the left is being eaten by its own creations. I think it’s more complicated than that but I’m not surprised it’s the prevailing view on it.
And I think it’s because the right generally refuses to take any of its own responsibility for the monsters it has created over the decades.
And then people like me blame them both.
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Jezcoe
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I don’t understand what you are saying
Jezcoe
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Ahh. Everything is a binary.
Got ya.
Exactly. It’s simplifying a complex system and reasons down into something that is more manageable.
As an anarchist, I take the view that the entire complexity of the system is what creates all this. Both the right and left are symptoms of the system, not the system itself.
But I’ll admit that my solution to the problem is one most people would never go for.
Destroy the government, destroy abusive capitalism, create a system made up solely of humans who share their labor willingly without coercion, and simplyfy the system. But I admit that is stupidly radical. And I’ll admit there’s no mechanism in place to just stop some oligarchy from monopolizing force and setting the old system back up again. It would be an attempt to create what the Left SRs wanted in Russia, but who’s the say there wouldn’t be Bolsheviks around to absorb the platform, make promises, and then start gunning everyone down.
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Piper
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He is the president. He said “the buck stops with me,” just like other presidents before him.
Other presidents took responsibility for unrest, why shouldn’t he? Why do we have a National Guard? Raegan didn’t hesitate to send them. It takes a man to do a man’s job.
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Well sending out the national guard to crush a bunch of students looks bad. Remember Kent State and JSU in the 70s? It isn’t the Paris Commune. No need to use a Paris Commune solution for a non-Paris Commune problem.
Plus honestly that’s hard on the guardsmen. Most of them are college aged; hell half of them are in college. That’s asking a lot to possibly have them gun down other students. Which is always a risk when a military force is deployed for police work.
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Jezcoe
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As far as I can tell… it’s a local matter.
Why federalize it?
Piper
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TheRedComet:
Well sending out the national guard to crush a bunch of students looks bad. Remember Kent State and JSU in the 70s? It isn’t the Paris Commune. No need to use a Paris Commune solution for a non-Paris Commune problem.
Plus honestly that’s hard on the guardsmen. Most of them are college aged; hell half of them are in college. That’s asking a lot to possibly have them gun down other students. Which is always a risk when a military force is deployed for police work.
Looks bad? Who are you trying to impress? Besides, it couldn’t look much worse, considering the universities in all the states that are taking part.
Deploying the military on students is… extreme. Unless these people have completely taken over the schools, instituted Blankist socialism, and are shooting people in the head it just seems a bit overkill. These are students. Not revolutionaries installing a dictatorship of the proletariat.
Plus it would probably backfire. The military isn’t made for police work. It’s made to destroy the enemy. Asking them to do something outside of their mandate has a habit of backfiring.
Piper
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TheRedComet:
Deploying the military on students is… extreme. Unless these people have completely taken over the schools, instituted Blankist socialism, and are shooting people in the head it just seems a bit overkill. These are students. Not revolutionaries installing a dictatorship of the proletariat.
Plus it would probably backfire.
All of this hate can only lead to murder. It needs to be stopped.
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Piper
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TheRedComet:
Deploying the military on students is… extreme. Unless these people have completely taken over the schools, instituted Blankist socialism, and are shooting people in the head it just seems a bit overkill. These are students. Not revolutionaries installing a dictatorship of the proletariat.
These rioter/protestors are on the side of terrorists, funded by terrorists …that makes them terrorists. Some of them claim to be Hamas.
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And the road to hell was paved with that exact statement.
Will you take responsibility if the guard gets deployed and ends up freaking out and shooting some students?
As much as I hate to say it, most of them are American citizens too.
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Then you investigate them and charge them with being members of a terrorist group. Which is a job for the police, not the military.
Piper
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Where is that written?
The students should realize this is a dangerous situation, anything could happen.
Brainwashed.
Regardless sending the guard to possibly shoot them will backfire. And optics matter in a republic.
You’re not a politician who has to get reelected.