I agree dehumanizing neighbors is evil. Curiously, this sort of thing is not considered antisemitic when the targets are Palestinian Semites instead of Israeli Semites.
If you doubt that, consider the controversy related to an organizer of conference on “antisemitism”:
Montreal, October 16, 2023 — Following the discovery last week of a ‘Palestinians as cockroaches’ Twitter post published by pro-Israel figure Arsen Ostrovsky, a featured speaker at this week’s ‘Antisemitism: Face It, Fight It’ conference in Ottawa, Canadians for Justice and Peace in the Middle East (CJPME) is demanding that Canadian members of Parliament boycott the conference. . . The cartoon depicts a blue boot with ‘IDF’ (Israeli Defence Forces) written on it crushing a Palestinian cockroach caricature, identified by the red, white, green and black colours of the Palestinian flag. Ostrovky prefaces the tweet with a single word, ‘This!’ The post has since been restricted for possibly violating Twitter’s rules on violent speech . . .
https://www.cjpme.org/pr_2023_10_16
tnt
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That’s what makes this conflict so unique, challenging and hard to understand.
It’s not based on politics or leadership. It’s based on religion. So the conflict doesn’t end with the destruction of the leader or the political machine that leads the cause.
It just goes on and on…
tnt
1228
What do you call people willing to kill thousands of innocent Palestinians? Or, perhaps, people who view ALL Palestinians as the enemy?
tnt
1230
Who is the enemy in Gaza? Hamas? All Palestinians?
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tnt
1231
We agree, Hamas doesn’t care how many innocent people on either side are killed. They aren’t going to surrender.
To beat that level of evil, you must rise to that level of evil I suppose. And I think it’s fair to ask, is that the right - both tactically right, and morally right - thing to do?
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Zippy
1232
The way I see it. Both. hamas is the ruling party put into their position by the palistinians . The palistinians fully support hamas as evidenced by the polling.
hamas is the palistinians and the palistinians are hamas.
Were we worried about killi civilians when we bombed berlin? Hiroshima?
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tnt
1233
Hard totrust the polling when the people being polled will be killed for giving the wrong answer.
I disagree with your assement, and I guess that’s the heart of the matter. I don’t think people deserve to die because they are ruled by terrorists.
I do fully recognize the need to destroy Hamas. I don’t think this is a best strategy though.
STODR
1234
Yes and no. It is based on leadership of the religion.
Zippy
1235
And where is your evidence of this?
Neither do I. But that is not the case. The overwhelming majority of palistinians SUPPORT hamas.
Much different.
An from what wealth of military tactical knowledge or knowledge of the area does this opinion come from?
We did it in World War II.
We bombed Germany and Japan literally back to the Stone Age.
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It’s a war and in a war all of your opponent is the enemy.
Considering what the Palestinian dream requires to be fulfilled, yes all of them are the enemy to the Israelis.
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Zippy
1239
What? Do you just make this garbage up as you go along?
Do do realize that the people who you support are the equivalent of modern day nazis, right?
Same opinions.
Same propaganda
Same objective
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It goes ALOT deeper than religion man. Islam and Judiasm isn’t that far apart. They’re actually pretty similar. Islam is one of the two children of Judaism.
This has a distinct ethnic and land component.
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DMK
1241
Hamas, all Palestinians who support Hamas and the genocide of Jews.
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DMK
1242
You make it sound like they are victims. They aren’t. They cheered in the streets as women were being dragged naked after being raped and killed through the streets.
Unless they indicate that they want a peaceful existence with Israel and do something to start overthrowing the radicals and their hatred, nothing will change.
They are just as guilty as Hamas. They put them in power, they keep them in power.
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The Palestinian dream must be silenced before there can be actual peace.
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If the British had adopted a similar policy of extermination and expulsion of Republican supporters (mainly Irish Catholics) from Northern Ireland, would they have ended the IRA?
Instead they negotiated the Good Friday Agreement with mediation from US Senator George Mitchell. The IRA is history at this point, even though the sectarian strife in Ireland goes back centuries before the creation of Israel.
The problem is that the Palestinians are far more determined than the Irish ever were. Plus the Irish dream was full separation and independence. The Palestinian dream requires the removal of Israel as a Jewish state. The view points are totally different.
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