Be very careful with Snopes or any other “fact checker.” They all have a political ideology which means they need to be taken with a grain of salt.
True, true. Much better to trust Breitbart and GatewayPundit. They never get it wrong!
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You made that up. But. That would be your call. Who am I to stop you.
Yeah but it’s not taught in Russian classrooms
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http://enews.earthlink.net/article/top?guid=20190227/c82308a7-0552-4b05-8f10-ca69d48f9683
AUSTIN, Texas (AP) —
“Saying there is no evidence of widespread election fraud in Texas, a federal judge Wednesday blocked the removal of any registered voter after state Republican leaders loudly but wrongly questioned the U.S. citizenship of tens of thousands of people.
The decision by U.S. District Judge Fred Biery of San Antonio temporarily halts a bungled search for illegal voters in Texas, which began in January with the release of a deeply flawed list of 98,000 voters who were flagged as possibly not being citizens. Those names were immediately referred to prosecutors , and Republican Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton amplified the announcement as a “VOTER FRAUD ALERT.”
Of course there is no evidence because it was all ■■■■■■■■ to begin with.
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Hint: it’s because he isn’t American.
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Friggen beat me to it two weeks ago.
No. Absolutely no national ID.
Republicans still the primary proven voter fraudster? Just checking in.
You’ve got one in your wallet right now, and republicans gave it to you.
One can usually get a feel though for the veracity of their claims by the sources they cite etc.
Primary? How about only?
No, I don’t. I’ve lived in countries with national ID. You don’t want it.
Texas ID is REAL ID.
Texas ID?
LOL
Here we go again!
So much OMG Hair Fire in the OP and so little, if any, legitimate reasoning based on evidence behind all the animation.
So typical!
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Thought you were a Texan. Down a peg you go.
That’s what I was screaming 12 years ago.
America Federal Elections are among the most secure, if not the most secure, of any, for a Nation of our size considering the 50 States each with their own Election Authorities down to the more than 170 thousand precincts in nearly 117 thousand Polling places.
Donald Trump’s partisan short lived Election Integrity Commission was shut down without issuing a final report. Why? Because it failed miserably to even uncover or identify anything but a nearly nonexistent number of cases of election and voter fraud. It certainly did not show Donald Trump’s bogus claims true about more than “3 million illegal votes” allegedly cast in the 2016 Election.
Even the Commission itself relied heavily on Two Right Wing entities, the Heritage Foundation and Judicial Watch, for setting a base line of sorts for their investigation.
These two groups, from 2016 going back to the year 2000, with them scouring State records, Federal records, and general reporting were only able to account for 2,109 cases of Election and or Voter Fraud.
Only 2,109 incidents across 16 years of voting in America. I guess to some that sounds like a staggering number. Until one puts it into real life perspective.
In that same time period, 200 to 2016, Americans cast, according to the FEC, 1,638, 504, 227 votes in primaries and general elections. That 2,109 number results in a 0.000013% of criminal incidents out of the more than 1.6 billion votes cast. That my friends is a near nonexistent number.
https://www.eac.gov/assets/1/6/2016_EAVS_Comprehensive_Report.pdf
Citations please for all the proof of this alleged voter fraud and supposed election malfeasance!
Did you see what you just did? First you say there is no way to check the legality of cast ballots after voting has ended but you then state with some seeming sense of certainty “thousands of votes by NON CITIZENS” were counted in the final totals. How on earth can you claim “thousands” of non citizens had ballots counted if there is no means to “check” those ballots?
Too funny!
How many are “numerous” and where were these “flipped” elections? Did you bother to count how many “flipped” from Democrats to Republicans?
Again, if you could give us citations for these numerous “flipped” elections it would be greatly appreciated!
I haven’t, and I am an American. Are you trying to tell us that the 58 million folks that voted for Donald Trump for President have no faith that his election to the Presidency was an profound example of the sanctity of our electoral system? LOL
For a gut check, there is no sanctity to our elections, there is nothing holy or sacred about them.
Neither of those claims are true, especially the one about voter fraud being rampant. That is a good Right Wing Myth, but it just isn’t true.
Yes, there is, firstly because there has been nothing to evidence any need for such a possibly unconstitutional move as forcing American Citizens to carry a Federal Voter ID just to vote.
What States do not require voters to identify themselves in order to get a ballot at the Polls?
We aren’t a backward Nation. We are doing just fine.
Or by murder, or by war, if the election doesn’t work.
We are good! Our elections certainly are not “filled” with inconsistencies, corruption, and voter fraud.
America’s #1 priority should be getting our troops home form every needless combat zone and ■■■■■■■■ nation across the globe where we are fighting wars that Congress has never declared.
Fixing our elections that really aren’t broke should not be our #1 priority.
Now mind you I have nothing against sensible actions to improve our electoral processes, say to improve across the board data handling, etc…
We should not be trying to complete some needless process before 2020. That is just insane thinking.
You have yet, with all due respect, in this thread, to interject COMMON SENSE towards solving America’s big problems.
But that is OK, we still have OP left to cover.
Because it is not needed and is possibly would be an unconstitutional move.
There is already Federal Direction that States clean their voter rolls. One thing, it hasn’t been completed because doing so becomes a highly partisan exercise, much like redistricting, and whoever is in control of the Governorship and the State legislatures purge rolls in ways that favor their side. Case in point is the recent debacle in Texas with their totally screwed up but Republican biased attempt to “purge” alleged non citizens from the rolls.
In order for voter roll adjustments, cleaning, purging etc. to be fair to all parties it would have to be work farmed out to unbiased disinterested entities.
Show me the Governor or State legislature that would want to relinquish that power and I will show you the day your question gets positively answered.
The reason for that “negligence” does matter and is part and parcel of why it will not get done any time soon and certainly not before the 2020 Election.
A Federal Voter ID issued to all Citizens eligible to vote is neither simple nor all that commonly sensible. Sounds easy, and simple, on a message board, but then it is all easy here.
OK. Who is going to pay for these ID’s? Who will produce them? How will the Federal Voter ID data base be maintained. Will that database need to be electronically accessible in all of the 178 Thousand precincts in the 117 thousand different Polling Places so that Poll Workers can verify the ID is valid? Will the States have to absorb these costs? Who will maintain the Federal Death record database? How will the Federal Death Database receive notice of the death of a Citizen so their ID can be invalidated.
Years ago, at the time the Photo ID to vote idea really got super heated and Republican controlled states started passing Photo ID laws there was reporting that these laws and the issuing of new ID’s were going to be costing states an average of $26 million dollars. Multiply that basic cost, to the Fed, across 50 States. That would be about $1.3 billion just for the ID’s.
So now you will also need a Federal voter registration database, as well as a staffed agency to process these registrations. Just for giggles, what ID will be considered adequate to verify the applicant is really a legal citizen. Because I had my Identity stolen and my criminal other “me” had my original Birth Certificate, my Social Security Card, my High School Diploma. How will you weed out such cases as that?
By doing that you are making a working system far more convoluted and complex.
Checking accuracy of recounts? How would that work?
So now you want duplicate databases? How is that “simple” and making “common sense”?
So, in just one scenario, how will a legal citizen who hasn’t yet received their Federal ID in the mail going to get to vote in an election except via Provisional voting, if the election happens before they have their ID.
Not they aren’t. That is BS. In fact Provisional Ballots are one of the poorest ways to engage in voter fraud since in probably 99% of elections Provisional Ballots aren’t even opened and counted.
Dead people do not vote. Living people have criminally used a dead persons ballot to vote, that is real but rare, what has been more prevalent, but still rare, is family members filling out absentee ballots “for their deceased” mom or dad or spouse not fully realizing they are committing a felony.
Thus making the election process even more complex and convoluted. That is not common sense at play!
Which only happens in those states who have SAME DAY REGISTRATION AND VOTING. I know, that is an inconvenient fact many people can’t seem to grasp.
Yes it has happened for many years and for many years I have spent inordinate time and effort trying to explain to people who immediately jump to conspiracy and fraud in elections theories just how it happens.
Oh Lordy!
Voter apathy is real. It is not rampant. It is not by any means a huge problem. What cause more voters to sit out elections has to do with restrictive voting laws, inconvenience of getting to the polls on election day, lack of excitement in the candidates, and then a million and one other things work to keep turnout lower, especially for mid terms.
Perhaps the real common sense solution to low voter turnout for elections is to make voting mandatory in order to retain full citizenship.
(Not serious.)
Wit all due respect, that last OP paragraph up above reminds me of a movie scene, a funny movie scene, but one that seems so appropriate at this moment.
Kirk Lazarus : Everybody knows you never go full retard.
Tugg Speedman : What do you mean?
Kirk Lazarus : Check it out. Dustin Hoffman, ‘Rain Man,’ look retarded, act retarded, not retarded. Counted toothpicks, cheated cards. Autistic, sho’. Not retarded. You know Tom Hanks, ‘Forrest Gump.’ Slow, yes. Retarded, maybe. Braces on his legs. But he charmed the pants off Nixon and he won a ping-pong competition. That ain’t retarded. He was a ■■■■■■■ war hero. You know any retarded war heroes? You went full retard, man. Never go full retard. You don’t buy that? Ask Sean Penn, 2001, "I Am Sam." Remember? Went full retard, went home empty-handed.
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I like reading your posts but this time I’m waiting for the movie. 
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Great post, LouC, as usual the Hannity election specialist. 
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