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Liberals ceased being liberal starting around late 70’s or so. They become even less so after Reagan was election.

So @Guilds…how does 19th and 20 liberals fit into today 21st century liberals?

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I’m not asking for links…stop being lazy. You have a brain…use it. Or do you need help from the internet?

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Come on @Guilds…this is simple political philosophy 101.

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Is he going to run off again?

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I provided what you asked for. I did not give you a link. I gave you quotes/definitions with links, if you so desire to educate yourself further. If you do not like it…I really do not care.

BTW…ease up on the personal digs…not necessary or useful.

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:joy: :rofl: :joy: :rofl:
I have a life. And it is quite good.

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No…I asked you.

As for personal dig…you the one that said this.

So show me that you have the ability to discuss 19th, 20th and 21st century political philosophy using your own knowledge and not wikilink.

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18th century liberalism is not new.

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I do not have to show you anything. Many philosophies change over time.
I am more concerned to what is happening now. And how screwed up the Trump/Republican party is, regarding economics.

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I did not coin the term.

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I would worry about your party…and how far they strayed from fundamental principles that they once claimed dear.

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No…those that are using it don’t know what they’re ■■■■■■■ talking about…and that includes wiki.

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I am more concerned about the Republican party., and how it has strayed from fundamental principles that they once claimed dear.

The Democratic party, is moving away from it’s fascination with neo-liberalism.
I truly encourage them to return to the party of FDR and JFK.

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Yes, you know more than all of the economists, philosophers over the last 150+ years that Wiki sites.

How many books have you read on the subject? Which ones?

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Moving that goal post…you started this conversation saying I didn’t know what Neo-liberal was.

FDR wasn’t liberal…and neither was JFK. At lease not in American definition of liberalism.

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They have been corrupted and parroted misinformation.

This discussion first started couple years ago with you when I said today’s libs have formed their authoritarian state under disguise of liberalism. Their new liberalism which isn’t liberal at all.

So tell me again what Neo means? And how it ties into today libs?

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Your definition of liberal, is neo-liberalism, AKA, classic liberalism.

It evolved.

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Are you saying today libs evolved into higher form of liberalism? Is that what you’re telling me?

Very nature of changing definition of liberals isn’t evolving…it’s changing the definition to suit your needs on demand. What kin of philosophy is that?

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Today’s liberals are the ideals of TR, FDR and JFK.

After Reagan got elected, and we had the Reagan revolution, many Democrats embraced neo-liberalism, that conservatives already embraced. The party moved to the right, economically, especially Clinton. Obama basically did the same…ObamaCare is basically a RW idea. He tried to move left economically, but did not succeed.

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And you can’t call classical liberalism neo liberalism…it’s 300 years old. Nothing new about it.

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