President Trump On Trial for Fraud (Civil)

[Jezcoe]

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@Jezcoe

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So you copied and pasted something you read. You still have no idea what that means or how it relates to his fraudulent fraud trial or who was supposedly defrauded.

You are flailing in trying to excuse what has already been determined in court.

Not determined.PRE-DETERMINED. That ought to bother even you Libs, but we all know Trump is exempt from the same presumption of innocence and due process that every other American is entitled to.

It wasn’t “pre-determined”

Evidence was brought to the court and it was so overwhelming that a summary judgement was made. And it wasn’t just Mar-A-Lago… it was a ton of Trump Inc properties that were overvalued in a fraudulent manner to secure better loan terms.

Trump Inc committed fraud. If you are fine with that… so be it…

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@Jezcoe

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@Jezcoe

@Optrader

So you copied and pasted something you read. You still have no idea what that means or how it relates to his fraudulent fraud trial or who was supposedly defrauded.

You are flailing in trying to excuse what has already been determined in court.

Not determined.PRE-DETERMINED. That ought to bother even you Libs, but we all know Trump is exempt from the same presumption of innocence and due process that every other American is entitled to.

It wasn’t “pre-determined”

Evidence was brought to the court and it was so overwhelming that a summary judgement was made. And it wasn’t just Mar-A-Lago… it was a ton of Trump Inc properties that were overvalued in a fraudulent manner to secure better loan terms.

Trump Inc committed fraud. If you are fine with that… so be it…

So when his convictions are overturned on appeal, you’ll agree they were frivolous persecutions done to prevent him from running/ winning the 24 election and carried out by TDS infected ■■■■■■■■ that ought to be disbarred right?

Nah, you’ll hold on to the guilty but got away with it mindset… Which is the entire reason all the charges are being brought at this time, by Democrats who swore to get him and in very solid Democrat jurisdictions.

[Jezcoe]

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So when his convictions are overturned on appeal, you’ll agree they were frivolous persecutions done to prevent him from running/ winning the 24 election and carried out by TDS infected ■■■■■■■■ that ought to be disbarred right?

This is a civil trial so there is no conviction.

I don’t see a world where Trump Inc can show that they did not engage in fraud.

[LucyLou]

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So when his convictions are overturned on appeal, you’ll agree they were frivolous persecutions done to prevent him from running/ winning the 24 election and carried out by TDS infected ■■■■■■■■ that ought to be disbarred right?

Nah, you’ll hold on to the guilty but got away with it mindset… Which is the entire reason all the charges are being brought at this time, by Democrats who swore to get him and in very solid Democrat jurisdictions.

There’s no convictions or guilty in civil law. There are only damages. We don’t know what those are yet. Maybe get reduced on appeal, but if you look at the evidence presented in court, there’s no way any further judge says he didn’t fraud.

[Zippy]

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Nah, you’ll hold on to the guilty but got away with it mindset… Which is the entire reason all the charges are being brought at this time, by Democrats who swore to get him and in very solid Democrat jurisdictions.

Got that right.

Just look at how many of the idiots still think Russia was a factor in 2016 even though has been proven that it was all a scheme/hoax cooked up by Hilary.

[Zippy]

@LucyLou

Maybe get reduced on appeal, but if you look at the evidence presented in court, there’s no way any further judge says he didn’t fraud.

And now you forgot the “Dear Santa “.

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@Jezcoe

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So when his convictions are overturned on appeal, you’ll agree they were frivolous persecutions done to prevent him from running/ winning the 24 election and carried out by TDS infected ■■■■■■■■ that ought to be disbarred right?

This is a civil trial so there is no conviction.

I don’t see a world where Trump Inc can show that they did not engage in fraud.

Meanwhile you don’t see a world where Biden Inc. DID engage in fraud ( or any other crime) right?

We all know your answer and we’re all shocked…

[Jezcoe]

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@Jezcoe

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So when his convictions are overturned on appeal, you’ll agree they were frivolous persecutions done to prevent him from running/ winning the 24 election and carried out by TDS infected ■■■■■■■■ that ought to be disbarred right?

This is a civil trial so there is no conviction.

I don’t see a world where Trump Inc can show that they did not engage in fraud.

Meanwhile you don’t see a world where Biden Inc. DID engage in fraud ( or any other crime) right?

We all know your answer and we’re all shocked…

The GOP has not brought forth evidence.

When they do…

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@LucyLou

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So when his convictions are overturned on appeal, you’ll agree they were frivolous persecutions done to prevent him from running/ winning the 24 election and carried out by TDS infected ■■■■■■■■ that ought to be disbarred right?

Nah, you’ll hold on to the guilty but got away with it mindset… Which is the entire reason all the charges are being brought at this time, by Democrats who swore to get him and in very solid Democrat jurisdictions.

There’s no convictions or guilty in civil law. There are only damages. We don’t know what those are yet. Maybe get reduced on appeal, but if you look at the evidence presented in court, there’s no way any further judge says he didn’t fraud.

I was speaking plural. I did make the prediction he will be found guilty in every trial in every jurisdiction and every conviction will be overturned. It doesn’t matter, the only damage that matters to you Libs is the damage to his ability to run for office. Personally I don’t think it’s going to work. All that these false charges are doing is causing more people to support him and causing people who were otherwise disengaged in the election process to become engaged. What the Trump hating Democrats are doing in New York, DC, Georgia and Florida won’t stand up to the scrutiny of non TDS infected people. It would have been better for your side to leave Trump alone and let all those people remain asleep. Now, not only are people waking up, but you guys have managed to get SCOTUS involved. This is not going to end as you hoped…

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@Jezcoe

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@Jezcoe

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So when his convictions are overturned on appeal, you’ll agree they were frivolous persecutions done to prevent him from running/ winning the 24 election and carried out by TDS infected ■■■■■■■■ that ought to be disbarred right?

This is a civil trial so there is no conviction.

I don’t see a world where Trump Inc can show that they did not engage in fraud.

Meanwhile you don’t see a world where Biden Inc. DID engage in fraud ( or any other crime) right?

We all know your answer and we’re all shocked…

The GOP has not brought forth evidence.

When they do…

Right. Besides phony shell corporations, emails, texts, phone calls, bank records, photos, a laptop, signed checks, eye witnesses, and whistleblowers, they got nothing on Joe or any other Biden…

[Oldandtired]

You do know that the banks that loaned trump money testified that there was no fraud. That they did not loan trump money on what he valued the property at. That they used their own appraisers to value the property and loaned trump money on what their own appraisers valued the property at.

[Jezcoe]

@Oldandtired

You do know that the banks that loaned trump money testified that there was no fraud. That they did not loan trump money on what he valued the property at. That they used their own appraisers to value the property and loaned trump money on what their own appraisers valued the property at.

It seems like Trump Inc would be successful in arguing this in court.

Hint… they won’t

[Oldandtired]

Hint they will on appeal.

[Smyrna]

@Jezcoe

Evidence was brought to the court and it was so overwhelming that a summary judgement was made. And it wasn’t just Mar-A-Lago… it was a ton of Trump Inc properties that were overvalued in a fraudulent manner to secure better loan terms.

Trump Inc committed fraud. If you are fine with that… so be it…

So which bank claimed fraud lib and how much did they claim they were defrauded by?

Link?

[Smyrna]

@Jezcoe

I don’t see a world where Trump Inc can show that they did not engage in fraud.

…and you had me at hello.

[Jezcoe]

@Smyrna

@Jezcoe

Evidence was brought to the court and it was so overwhelming that a summary judgement was made. And it wasn’t just Mar-A-Lago… it was a ton of Trump Inc properties that were overvalued in a fraudulent manner to secure better loan terms.

Trump Inc committed fraud. If you are fine with that… so be it…

So which bank claimed fraud lib and how much did they claim they were defrauded by?

Link?

I continue to notice that the argument isn’t that there wasn’t fraud only that the fraud doesn’t matter.

[Jezcoe]

@Oldandtired

Hint they will on appeal.

Doubtful.

[Supreme_War_Pig]

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@Jezcoe

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@Jezcoe

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So when his convictions are overturned on appeal, you’ll agree they were frivolous persecutions done to prevent him from running/ winning the 24 election and carried out by TDS infected ■■■■■■■■ that ought to be disbarred right?

This is a civil trial so there is no conviction.

I don’t see a world where Trump Inc can show that they did not engage in fraud.

Meanwhile you don’t see a world where Biden Inc. DID engage in fraud ( or any other crime) right?

We all know your answer and we’re all shocked…

The GOP has not brought forth evidence.

When they do…

Right. Besides phony shell corporations, emails, texts, phone calls, bank records, photos, a laptop, signed checks, eye witnesses, and whistleblowers, they got nothing on Joe or any other Biden…

Cool. So what were the crimes? The quid, the quo, who was involved, when did it happen?

[Smyrna]

@Jezcoe

I continue to notice that the argument isn’t that there wasn’t fraud only that the fraud doesn’t matter.

I continue to notice that there’s a lib claim of fraud but no claimant to substantiate this claim.

[Jezcoe]

@Smyrna

@Jezcoe

I continue to notice that the argument isn’t that there wasn’t fraud only that the fraud doesn’t matter.

I continue to notice that there’s a lib claim of fraud but no claimant to substantiate this claim.

It isn’t a “lib” claim… but a finding of fact by the court