Predict it: How many votes in the senate against Trump's emegency declaration. (3-14-2019)


#101

I think he was just yelling for his Consigliere.


#102

Could be that he just misspelled BETO ! #Covfefe


#103

59

The 12 Senate Republicans who voted in support of the resolution were: Roger Wicker of Mississippi, Marco Rubio of Florida, Rob Portman of Ohio, Susan Collins of Maine, Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, Pat Toomey of Pennsylvania, Roy Blunt of Missouri, Lamar Alexander of Tennessee, Mitt Romney of Utah, Rand Paul of Kentucky, Jerry Moran of Kansas and Mike Lee of Utah.


#104

Forget opinions. The data from before and after the fence was installed below San Diego speaks for itself and clearly defines that walls work…period.


#105

I would appreciate a link to that data. Thanks.


#106

It’s not as good as “Space Force all the way!”

Which we still use as a joke in meetings at work.


#107

Here’s the Senate vote on HJ Res 46: https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=116&session=1&vote=00049#position


#108

Damn you, Tillis.

Allan


#109

It’s post #42


#110

Thanks for that. I did find a couple of articles about the author Ted Robbins, which cited that he was pretty loose with the facts he used in a few of his articles. That said:
I do not disagree with the fact that walls do work in certain areas. Certainly the San Diego area is one of extremely high border traffic. I has also been one of the areas where many sophisticated tunnel systems have been constructed. But my major question remains. Where is the administration and DHS planning on placing this new wall. Seems like a simple question and one that congress should be (and has been) asking. And yet there is no response. And the administration keeps failing at giving congress a fully detailed immigration plan. The last plan that they tried to get through the lame duck session of congress only included money for a wall and restrictions on asylum and cuts to legal immigration.
So I still maintain that Trump’s primary focus here is to take away the wall as a talking point.


#111

I predict Trump will veto those traitorous votes.

JWK

It was February of 2019 when an ongoing invasion of America’s borders swelled to tens of thousands a month, not a shot was fired to defend the borders of the United States, and America’s domestic enemies, socialists, communists and anarchists in Congress, pushed forward with their attempt to embrace the invasion in hopes of conquering a prosperous and freedom loving people.


#112

Yes, voting to uphold the constitution is treason.

:roll_eyes::roll_eyes:


#113

You guys really need to tone down the “traitor”, “traitorous” rhetoric.
I find that most people here do not even know the proper definition. And they certainly do not know that a person nowadays can not be tried for treason. To disagree with this President because we believe this is only a manufactured national emergency to fulfill a campaign promise is not betraying our country.
It was the same when many of us disagreed with G.W. Bush about going to war in Iraq. We were labeled as being un-American. When in fact, it is one of the most American things that we do.


#114

The Congressional Research Service studied this situation, and dissgrees.


#115

Are you indicating The National Emergencies Act under which Trump is acting, is unconstitutional?

JWK


#116

The way he is using it is unconstitutional. All funding is suppose to originate in the House per the constitution. This funding allocation didn’t originate in the House - thus, any funds used in this way are being used contrary to the method outlined in the constitution.


#117

I used the word traitorous, which is correct. We have an ongoing invasion at our southern border and these traitorous Republicans vote to prevent Trump from taking statutorily authorized actions to repel the invasion.

JWK

It was February of 2019 when an ongoing invasion of America’s borders swelled to tens of thousands a month, not a shot was fired to defend the borders of the United States, and America’s domestic enemies, socialists, communists and anarchists in Congress, pushed forward with their attempt to embrace the invasion in hopes of conquering a prosperous and freedom loving people.


#118

Wait - the term “invasion” implies we are at war. Now, as we all know, it is constitutionally the role of Congress to declare war. Now, perhaps I missed it - but I haven’t seen Congress declare war or allocate funding for wartime activities. Can you provide a link to when that happened?


#119

in·va·sion

/inˈvāZHən/

noun

noun: invasion ; plural noun: invasions

overrunning, overwhelming, storming;

attack, incursion, offensive, assailing, assault, onslaught;

foray, sortie, raid

“the invasion of the islands took place in April”

antonyms: withdrawal

  • an incursion by a large number of people or things into a place or sphere of activity.

“stadium guards are preparing for another invasion of fans”

synonyms: influx, inundation, inrush, rush, flood, torrent, deluge, stream, avalanche

“every year the valley suffers an invasion of cars”

*** an unwelcome intrusion into another’s domain.**

:roll_eyes:


#120

I believe that it is.