Police have gunfights with 12 and 14 year olds with AK 47

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@WuWei

All of which are authoritarian. If you came to my house to borrow a cup of sugar and saw my pistol from the door on my end table, what would you do?

Presuming I know you and we’re on good terms? Nothing.

The word ‘authoritarianism’ loses it’s punch when you claim things like electrical codes fit the bill…

[mbus]

@WuWei

All of which are authoritarian. If you came to my house to borrow a cup of sugar and saw my pistol from the door on my end table, what would you do?

I wouldn’t let my teenage daughter date your teenage son. But she would anyway.

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@Steel-W0LF

Sure it does.

You’re blaming the victim for not adequately protecting his goodies from a criminal.

oh…got it…as in the victim of the house break in…

Except he wasn’t leaving his gun in the window like a knee, was he? Or is that your suggestion?

OK, I see your point. Don’t think it’s an exact fit, but I’m assuming the break in wasn’t prompted by knowledge of the gun. I could be wrong.

[WuWei]

@tnt

@WuWei

Why not?

the ‘you are dressed to be raped’ example isn’t the same as ‘this is overreach by the government’.

Two totally different things.

Why?
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[tnt]

@Tom_Ch

Someone shared story about bad father. Here is one about bad mother. This make me quite upset that the idiot started shooting in the neighborhood.

who ■■■■■■■ shoots at a puppy?!?! ■■■■■■■■

God bless america, that an idiot who would shoot at a puppy can easily obtain a firearm! Smell that? It’s FREEDOM!!!

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@WuWei

Why?
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I amended. I see his point.

[WuWei]

@tnt

@WuWei

You agree it’s punishment then, not prevention.

Use common sense.

So is Murder Law…

Agreed. But here we are talking about before somebody is harmed.

[zantax]

Is it just me or does the left seem to be big fans of the movie “Minority Report”.

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@WuWei

Agreed. But here we are talking about before somebody is harmed.

So more like a seatbelt law.

Or gasoline staroage regulation.

Or Building code requirement.

Or Pool fence regulation.

It’s not like something like this is gonna change much really…it’s easy enough form criminals to just leally buy a gun, or buy one from someone. I don’t think stealing guns is much of a thing. Maybe would help with guns left in a house unsecured, then kids getting ahold of them and shooting themselves or someone else accidentally…

I’m honesty not that invested in gun owner liability. I think there are better ways to lower gun deaths.

[zantax]

@tnt

@WuWei

Agreed. But here we are talking about before somebody is harmed.

So more like a seatbelt law.

Or gasoline staroage regulation.

Or Building code requirement.

Or Pool fence regulation.

It’s not like something like this is gonna change much really…it’s easy enough form criminals to just leally buy a gun, or buy one from someone. I don’t think stealing guns is much of a thing. Maybe would help with guns left in a house unsecured, then kids getting ahold of them and shooting themselves or someone else accidentally…

I’m honesty not that invested in gun owner liability. I think there are better ways to lower gun deaths.

None of those are the same.

[TheRedComet]

And they take all the wrong lessons from that movie.

The movie specifically pointed out the flaws in “pre-crime” analysis and how broken a system like that would truly be.

The movie was a warning against such ideas becoming commonplace.

[zantax]

Should have been more precise, not so much a fan of the movie as fans of the dystopia it portrayed.

[WuWei]

@STODR

Please tell us what the definition of unsecured is in your quote. Oh and link to it.

And “likely to be”

[WuWei]

@tnt

@WuWei

Agreed. But here we are talking about before somebody is harmed.

So more like a seatbelt law.

Or gasoline staroage regulation.

Or Building code requirement.

Or Pool fence regulation.

It’s not like something like this is gonna change much really…it’s easy enough form criminals to just leally buy a gun, or buy one from someone. I don’t think stealing guns is much of a thing. Maybe would help with guns left in a house unsecured, then kids getting ahold of them and shooting themselves or someone else accidentally…

I’m honesty not that invested in gun owner liability. I think there are better ways to lower gun deaths.

Yeah, prior restraint punished after the fact.

You don’t think stealing guns is much of a thing? Are you kidding?

What’s a better way?

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@zantax

Should have been more precise, not so much a fan of the movie as fans of the dystopia it portrayed.

The left are fans of dystopia?

[zantax]

@mbus

@zantax

Should have been more precise, not so much a fan of the movie as fans of the dystopia it portrayed.

The left are fans of dystopia?

They appear to be all on board punishing people for crimes they may some day commit. At least when it comes to gun regulation. And even further, as this thread demonstrates, punishing them for crimes others may commit.

[WuWei]

@mbus

The left are fans of dystopia?

I’d say so. Of course they don’t believe it is dystopia.

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@WuWei

@mbus

The left are fans of dystopia?

I’d say so. Of course they don’t believe it is dystopia.

That’s because it’s an imagined state. But that imagined state and connecting with work a day liberals is being well-marketed to great effect.

[WuWei]

@mbus

@WuWei

@mbus

The left are fans of dystopia?

I’d say so. Of course they don’t believe it is dystopia.

That’s because it’s an imagined state. But that imagined state and connecting with work a day liberals is being well-marketed to great effect.

If you read the description of the imagined state, history shows us where the left leads.

We aren’t going to agree.

[mbus]

@WuWei

@mbus

@WuWei

@mbus

The left are fans of dystopia?

I’d say so. Of course they don’t believe it is dystopia.

That’s because it’s an imagined state. But that imagined state and connecting with work a day liberals is being well-marketed to great effect.

If you read the description of the imagined state, history shows us where the left leads.

We aren’t going to agree.

Nope. But language does matter. And Zantax’s ‘fan of dystopia’ is not, I hope, what he or you mean.