Pentagon halts plans to build extra 20 miles of border wall, citing insufficient funds

LucyLou · 2019-09-21T13:35:51.753Z

So he was under the impression that he had worked on it?

LouC · 2019-09-21T14:05:42.337Z

LucyLou:

So he was under the impression that he had worked on it?

Yeah.

Got to love that.

More stolen stolen credit for others efforts by this piece of trash president.

The man knows no shame and has no sense of propriety!

madasheck · 2019-09-21T16:15:59.310Z

WildRose:

Border crossings are down over 90% where the new taller and less easily penetrated walls have been put up over the last decade.

That’s more from the bureaucratic changes Trump has made rather than the wall. People are just going around the wall. The bureaucratic changes won’t last a minute once Trump leaves/gets tossed.

Jezcoe · 2019-09-21T16:43:37.829Z

While the President touts at how he has rebuilt the military and diverts funds from Pentagon projects in a way to make a run around Congress for funding… there are now several military construction projects that are being put back on the back burner.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/pentagon-has-warned-of-dire-outcomes-if-military-projects-canceled-for-wall-dont-happen/2019/09/18/03e99ac6-d988-11e9-ac63-3016711543fe_story.html

military officials describe dilapidated World War II-era warehouses with “leaking asbestos panel roof systems,” a drone pilot training facility with sinkholes and a bat infestation, explosives being stored in buildings that didn’t meet safety standards and a mold-infested middle school. In numerous instances, Defense Department officials wrote that the infrastructure problems were hurting the military’s readiness and impeding the department’s national security mission.

Some examples.

The Air National Guard has been seeking to replace the aircraft parking ramp at a New Orleans facility, which abuts a public roadway. This means munitions-loaded aircraft — which are kept on alert so they can be scrambled quickly in the event of a terrorist attack — expose the public to the “unacceptable risk” of being affected by an explosive accident, the Air Force wrote in 2018. An Air Force analysis calculated that members of the public are inside the jets’ “explosive arc” for about 3,800 hours per year as they pass by the base

The Air Force has been seeking a new control center at Hill Air Force Base in Utah, designed to replace a pair of “dilapidated WWII-era warehouses” used for air traffic control and mission control operations even though they have been labeled “structurally deficient” and don’t meet regulations. The Air Force noted in its budget request that air traffic control equipment is at risk of being destroyed by “roof leaks from failing asbestos panel roof systems.”

Vehicle maintenance buildings at Fort Huachuca in Arizona date to the 1930s and 1940s and do not meet the Army’s standards for vehicle testing and maintenance, forcing service members to work in “unsafe” facilities that “jeopardize personnel health, security and safety,” the Army wrote in 2017.

There are more… so Yay?

Publius · 2019-09-21T16:54:56.828Z

Yabbut, it’s a “good, strong rust color,” so there’s that…

LouC · 2019-09-21T20:44:59.056Z

Publius:

Yabbut, it’s a “good, strong rust color,” so there’s that…

There is that.

There is this as well.

While Trump has insisted that the barriers be painted, the cost of painting them will reduce the length of the fence the government will be able to build. According to the internal analysis, painting or coating 175 miles of barriers “will add between $70 million and $133 million in cost,” trimming the amount of fencing the Army Corps will be able to install by four to seven miles.

President Trump wants a border wall, painted black, by Election Day | The Texas Tribune

I see a rust fence and I want to paint it black!

In June, teams of U.S. soldiers painted a one-mile section of fence in Calexico, California, at a cost of $1 million. The coating, known as “matte black” or “flat black,” absorbs heat, making the fence hot to the touch, more slippery and therefore tougher to climb, according to border agents.

LouC · 2019-09-21T20:49:34.223Z

Oh. FYI The fence in Calexico that the U.S. Soldiers attacked with brushes and matte black paint (and that our Corpulent Commander in Chief falsely claimed as part of his “big beautiful wall”) was simply more replacement barrier fencing that was already in the design and planning stages during the President Obama administration.

WildRose · 2019-09-22T05:19:49.060Z

And it therefore proves their utility and value in securing the border and that your post had no basis in fact.

LouC · 2019-09-22T15:55:28.836Z

My post was based entirely on actual facts, with loads of basis. I never said fences aren’t barriers now did I?

Just mocked the president for the enturely doltish things he said and did on his trip to the border fence project near San Diego that was already in the works before he became president and was of a design already established by DHS and CBP before he wasted millions on uncceptable prototypes, established designs that best suited CBP work at the border.

WildRose · 2019-09-22T15:56:53.707Z

The new taller walls in both the SD and EP sectors have reduced illegal crossings upward of 95% proving his premise correct.

LouC · 2019-09-22T16:02:24.416Z

Did I ever say barriers are completely ineffective?

No I did not.

That they are somewhat effective does nothing to negate the doltish things our dolt in chief did and said at the border near San Diego.

But you keep on carrying his water for him!

LouC · 2019-09-22T16:07:15.689Z

Actually they are not walls, they are bollard style fences, they were always called fences, until the unofficial word went to out from this white house that fences were now to be called walls.

Chris · 2019-09-22T19:21:45.207Z

Washington State has recently sued the Trump administration for their plan to take away from their State $89 million dollars.
https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2019/sep/19/washington-sues-trump-over-transfer-of-89-million-/

Ferguson questioned the administration’s authority to transfer funds that had been allocated for other things by Congress when the plan was announced in February. But the state didn’t join previous lawsuits because there was no proof Washington would be affected until the list of projects was announced this month.

This is similar to Clinton versus New York when the SCOTUS ruled that the Line Item Veto Act was unconstitutional in 1998. Link
Only the Legislation branch of the Government has the power of the purse.

WildRose · 2019-09-23T05:10:28.978Z

I don’t care what you call it. This is the design the BP wanted and that’s what they got.

WildRose · 2019-09-23T05:12:45.016Z

The courts have already ruled that the administratiion can pull the federal grants for state and local LE that refuse to cooperate.

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/452862-9th-circuit-rules-in-favor-of-trump-admin-in-sanctuary-city-case

There’s no way the SCOTUS overturns the 9th on this one so it’s over.

LouC · 2019-09-23T12:16:06.477Z

WildRose:

I don’t care what you call it. This is the design the BP wanted and that’s what they got.

OMG

Dude, I have been broadcasting that here from day one. The design is exactly what the DHS-CBP came up with LONG before jackass Trump came along. He is down at the border trying to give away CBP apprehension and prevention secrets, he is doltishly talking about the design being designed to be “hot” as he said “you could fry an egg on it”. It was not designed to be “hot” that just happens to be a purely coincidental side effect of concrete and steel when subjected to So Cal dessert sunlight. Trust me, I know this, I lived there right near the border. I built green houses in 108 to 112 degree summer heat in the Imperial Valley. I picked crops there as well. I used to leave my coffee cup on the dashboard of my truck when I would go to get supplies and the coffee would be hotter when I got back than when I poured it.

Trump is a dolt.

The bollard style fencing DHS-CBP design (not Trump’s design) is not meant to be 100% proof against crossing, it is meant to slow and impede individuals and groups and it will stop ground vehicles. Along with the bollard style steel fencing that Congress authorized with the $1.6 Billion since 2017’s budget that has been going for replacement fencing projects like the one Donald the dolt visited and that had already been in the works additional surveillance equipment has been included, with passive, ground sensors, and active camera pods, but all that is pointless if the CBP officers don’t have access to the fencing that is going up. That is why a goodly chunk of the monies being spent is going towards roads along the fence where there had been none and improvements to the roads along the fence that had already existed.

All of this was already being done without a Trump and a sharpie at the border, it is what I have been supporting ever since the Fence Act of 2006 and stronger and better border security I have called for since before then.

For sane and rational informed voters out there what Trump did at the border was to just further showcase what an ignorant jackass and political dolt he is.

To his acolyte’s, he of course can do no wrong, so they will fawn and praise their chosen one for even the stupidest thing he says or does and that was plenty on his war on California trip.

WildRose · 2019-09-24T07:37:52.454Z

Yet he beat the “smartest woman in the world” and will probably be reelected in spite of such articulate dissenters as yourself.

LouC · 2019-09-24T10:34:37.660Z

WildRose:

Yet he beat the “smartest woman in the world” and will probably be reelected in spite of such articulate dissenters as yourself.

He beat just another candidate who happened to be a woman and who actually received legitimately more popular votes than he did. The people, as in “we the people” came out to vote for her in greater numbers, just by some twist of fate, not in the right places in the right states where enough Donny Deplorable Dummy’s carried the electoral college for him.

I said from the start he would get reelected if he managed to not totally destroy the economy before election day come November 2020 or otherwise screw the pooch.

So you mentioning that isn’t going to bother me, I am prepared for it, have been since January 20th of 2017.

Thanks for the proper acknowledgment that yes, I am an “articulate dissenter”.

Of course none of this changes the fact that Trump’s behavior at the So Cal border was pathetic, laughable, but oh so doltish.

We sane and rational articulate dissenters see that truth, Trump minions, not at all.

LucyLou · 2019-09-24T10:43:28.061Z

LouC:

WildRose:

I don’t care what you call it. This is the design the BP wanted and that’s what they got.

OMG

Dude, I have been broadcasting that here from day one. The design is exactly what the DHS-CBP came up with LONG before jackass Trump came along. He is down at the border trying to give away CBP apprehension and prevention secrets, he is doltishly talking about the design being designed to be “hot” as he said “you could fry an egg on it”. It was not designed to be “hot” that just happens to be a purely coincidental side effect of concrete and steel when subjected to So Cal dessert sunlight. Trust me, I know this, I lived there right near the border. I built green houses in 108 to 112 degree summer heat in the Imperial Valley. I picked crops there as well. I used to leave my coffee cup on the dashboard of my truck when I would go to get supplies and the coffee would be hotter when I got back than when I poured it.

Trump is a dolt.

The bollard style fencing DHS-CBP design (not Trump’s design) is not meant to be 100% proof against crossing, it is meant to slow and impede individuals and groups and it will stop ground vehicles. Along with the bollard style steel fencing that Congress authorized with the $1.6 Billion since 2017’s budget that has been going for replacement fencing projects like the one Donald the dolt visited and that had already been in the works additional surveillance equipment has been included, with passive, ground sensors, and active camera pods, but all that is pointless if the CBP officers don’t have access to the fencing that is going up. That is why a goodly chunk of the monies being spent is going towards roads along the fence where there had been none and improvements to the roads along the fence that had already existed.

All of this was already being done without a Trump and a sharpie at the border, it is what I have been supporting ever since the Fence Act of 2006 and stronger and better border security I have called for since before then.

For sane and rational informed voters out there what Trump did at the border was to just further showcase what an ignorant jackass and political dolt he is.

To his acolyte’s, he of course can do no wrong, so they will fawn and praise their chosen one for even the stupidest thing he says or does and that was plenty on his war on California trip.

Great post, Lou.

LouC · 2019-09-24T10:47:59.820Z

LucyLou:

LouC:

WildRose:

I don’t care what you call it. This is the design the BP wanted and that’s what they got.

OMG

Dude, I have been broadcasting that here from day one. The design is exactly what the DHS-CBP came up with LONG before jackass Trump came along. He is down at the border trying to give away CBP apprehension and prevention secrets, he is doltishly talking about the design being designed to be “hot” as he said “you could fry an egg on it”. It was not designed to be “hot” that just happens to be a purely coincidental side effect of concrete and steel when subjected to So Cal dessert sunlight. Trust me, I know this, I lived there right near the border. I built green houses in 108 to 112 degree summer heat in the Imperial Valley. I picked crops there as well. I used to leave my coffee cup on the dashboard of my truck when I would go to get supplies and the coffee would be hotter when I got back than when I poured it.

Trump is a dolt.

The bollard style fencing DHS-CBP design (not Trump’s design) is not meant to be 100% proof against crossing, it is meant to slow and impede individuals and groups and it will stop ground vehicles. Along with the bollard style steel fencing that Congress authorized with the $1.6 Billion since 2017’s budget that has been going for replacement fencing projects like the one Donald the dolt visited and that had already been in the works additional surveillance equipment has been included, with passive, ground sensors, and active camera pods, but all that is pointless if the CBP officers don’t have access to the fencing that is going up. That is why a goodly chunk of the monies being spent is going towards roads along the fence where there had been none and improvements to the roads along the fence that had already existed.

All of this was already being done without a Trump and a sharpie at the border, it is what I have been supporting ever since the Fence Act of 2006 and stronger and better border security I have called for since before then.

For sane and rational informed voters out there what Trump did at the border was to just further showcase what an ignorant jackass and political dolt he is.

To his acolyte’s, he of course can do no wrong, so they will fawn and praise their chosen one for even the stupidest thing he says or does and that was plenty on his war on California trip.

Great post, Lou.

Thanks!

“If we the people aren’t free to fry an egg on our bollard style border fencing is anyone really free?”