And as always. Thank you for your service to this country. Your sacrifice is not unrecognized.
Nah. Backed in a corner now. It’s clear where I stand.
K1 out
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The only corner you’re backed into is that the facts don’t support your claims.
You’re trying to refute a facts with unsupported opinion and emotion.
I understand being passionate about issues, especially Veteran’s Disabilities, not because of my own but because of all the Vet’s that are far worse off than myself but I don’t let that passion dissuade me from the actual facts.
I’m sorry to hear that about your father btw. Have a good one.
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Dear lord. You called him Dr. I deleted. You did it again, I deleted again. It’s ok if you’re passionate about something, just don’t let yourself resort to name calling.
Rose has linked to significant loss of limb injuries as if to say those are what real injuries look like. TBI is an unnoticed injury that can affect people in different ways. Do these soldiers have extensive brain injury, or are extra precautions being taken? If the reports are accurate, all 17 are being treated on an outpatient basis. I think we can draw some conclusions from this.
That’s treatment for a hematoma. Not all TBI requires a hematoma. Not even close.
Diminished cognitive function is often treated on outpatient basis. Even when memory is effected treatment is often afforded through monitoring and meds. Not much they can do
All that being said i agree with you that we have no clue and that almost any head trauma no matter how light is often described as TBI
I did not know it was deleted. I would not have done it a second time had I known
Here is a list of things a professional in the field reads when learning about brain injury. Over the 10 years since my dads injury I have been part of several TBI support groups, I have studied and learned a lot of this info.
A lot of this was readings I prepared for after my client died I read to enhance my knowledge. And this knowledge helped win a 6 million dollar law suit against my agency. The expert witness for our defense told the attorney that he wasn’t needed bc my knowledge and testimony in deposition was so strong.
Here is a list that doesn’t include the MAYO Clinic info for the layman.
https://www.uab.edu/medicine/tbi/newly-injured/questions-about-traumatic-brain-injury-tbi/is-a-concussion-the-same-as-a-mild-tbi
https://www.biausa.org/brain-injury/about-brain-injury/adults-what-to-expect/adults-what-to-expect-at-hom
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https://www.biausa.org/brain-injury/about-brain-injury/adults-what-to-expect/adults-brain-injury-impact-on-healt
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https://www.biausa.org/brain-injury/about-brain-injury/adults-what-to-expect/adults-brain-injury-relationship
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https://www.biausa.org/brain-injury/about-brain-injury/basics/under-standing-the-injur
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These were all from my work computer…so I had to retrieve them. Readily available indeed.
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I’m not disputing what happens when a person has TBI.
But for me, one missle attack on a base brings 17 TBI cases and NO other injureis.
How many TBI cases were recorded in all the roadside attacks and other encounters during the gulf war and the after scurmishes? How many from explosions near vehicles traveling, or when they were damaged? From other missle/morter attcks on positions?
If there were 17 is this one, there should be ten’s of thousands of other cases correct? Why don’t we hear about them?
Because you© aren’t looking or aren’t listening. TBI was one of the major casualties in IRAQ. Many of the advances in TBI treatment we’re made because of the massive TBI injuries in IRAQ. Since 2000
Traumatic brain injury (TBI) has been called a “signature injury” of Iraq and Afghanistan Conflicts.1 The Defense and Veterans Brain Injury Center (DVBIC) report nearly 350,000 incident diagnoses of TBI in the U.S. military since 2000.2 Among those deployed, estimated rates of probable TBI range from 11–23%.3–7 Traumatic brain injury (TBI) has been called a “signature injury” of Iraq and Afghanistan Conflicts.1 The Defense and Veterans Brain Injury Center (DVBIC) report nearly 350,000 incident diagnoses of TBI in the U.S. military since 2000.2 Among those deployed, estimated rates of probable TBI range from 11–23%.3–7
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According to what was stated in the report the 17 being treated are being treated as outpatients so they cannot be severe cases. If they were, they’d be getting in patient care.
As I showed these types of injuries can be very mild with only short term effects such as headaches which account for the vast majority of cases to the much more rare severely debilitating permanent injuries.
“Probable TBI”.
How many of those cases were severe enough to cause permanent injury?
From your first link.
Yes. A concussion is often referred to by doctors as a “mild TBI.” Both terms are used when a person experiences a change in normal brain function for no longer than a minutes following trauma. Concussions are usually not life-threatening, but their effects can be serious. Affects from a concussion can range from mild to severe and may include one or more of the following symptoms:
- Changes in vision;
- Confused;
- Feeling drowsy;
- Feeling of “lost time;”
- Hard to arouse;
- Headache;
- Loss of consciousness;
- Memory loss (amnesia) of events before the injury or immediately after; and/or
- Nausea and vomiting.
Which only confirms what was noted in the links I provided from Mayo and the CDC.
That’s not necessarily true.
Hospitals don’t like beds to be occupied very long. Get 'em in and out, so they can make more money.
Nearly one in five patients are discharged too early.
Not saying it’s the case here, but assuming it isn’t is a fallacy, too.
We aren’t talking about civilian medical care.
Pure speculation without any foundation in fact.
The first paragraph is completely invented by you.
Again though we have no clue how serious or light the injuries are because there are so many different things that fall under the TBI umbrella but what you wrote is a conclusion without any real fact
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Wrong as usual. I’m quite familiar with the Military Health Care system. I know exactly how they treat TBIs.
No it isn’t made up, read the report.
I know if they were severe injuries they would not be getting outpatient treatment.
Forgetting to a second that Severity of tbi injuries isn’t obvious immediately. Loss of cognitive function may range for memory loss to inability to sleep to Permanent migraines. They are not keeping them in the hospital for memory gaps or inability to form short term memory sporadically They tell them to get some rest and proceed with outpatient care.
Again though nobody has any clue as to the severity of the TBI.
