Pelosi and the Dumbs want 16 year olds voting

Yes, the exact opposite of what “liberals” once thought. Perhaps we should return to monarchy, or dictatorships, right? Those stupid, “We the people”… perfect!

Put me down in the column of people who DON’T want 16 year olds voting.

I don’t know about you, but I think democracy is the best form of government we have conceived so far.

One should not equate youth or age with wisdom, though.

What! You forgot the pet name “evangelical”

Let’s make the maximum age the age of full social security eligibility… Don’t won’t the free cheese crowd voting… :joy:

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While it seems to me you’re more arguing against trying adolescents as adults than for adolescents voting, your argument is a bit flawed. Trying juveniles as adults is not the norm. It takes particularly heinous acts to try a juvenile as an adult. The argument that “we try some 16 year olds as adults, therefore all 16 year olds should vote” doesn’t follow.

In some cases, it is the norm. Any 17 year old is tried as an adult here in Texas, even for misdemeanor theft like shoplifting <$100. And it doesn’t matter even if it wasn’t the norm. It’s a possibility. Any 16 year could be tried as an adult under certain circumstances. And those circumstances could easily be changed to be more encompassing. Given that possibility, any 16 should be able to vote. If that’s objectionable, the easiest solution would be to never—under any circumstances—try adolescents as adults.

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  1. Trying underage persons as adults for crimes like shoplifting is stupid. I’m ok with trying adolescents as adults for heinous acts, but even that would have a floor - 16 most likely.

  2. I’d have to disagree that the possibility of being tried as an adult for heinous crimes then legitimizes allowing 16 year olds to vote. Parity would be the right circumstances could legitimize a 16 year old voting. Actually, that wouldn’t bother me in the slightest.

All these attempts of getting more voters is a CLEAR sign they’re losing and have lost even more of their base because of the new 3 stooges that have terrified the Democrats, even Nancy P cant get a coherent statement out of her mouth these days, have you tried to listen to her lately, she’s about lost it inho , It wouldn’t surprise me if she doesn’t run again when the time comes, may even have to retire :slight_smile:

This kind of stuff is why there is little time for policy talk.

Kids sang to Nixon.
Kids sang to Bush (43).
Adults sing for Trump.

What’s the next pearl clutching presidential activity?

Now, I looked on cnn, msnbc, searching for a video, can’t pull it up from them. Of course only those from the right are showing her words because the left doesn’t want to highlight her words. YouTube only has rightwingers showing the video. But here are her words, yes it does come from Breitbart, but you can link to the video if you want to actually have the words coming out of her mouth. From about 1:25 to the end, about 40 seconds or so Watch - Pelosi: New Immigrants Must Not Have their Votes Suppressed

“When we talk about newcomers, we have to recognize the constant reinvigoration of America that they are, that we all have been – our families,” she said.

“And that, unless you’re blessed to be Native American – which is a blessing in itself that we respect – but that constant reinvigoration of hope, determination, optimism, courage, to make the future better for the next generation, those are American traits,” Pelosi said.

“And these newcomers make America more American. And we want them, when they come here, to be fully part of our system,” she said.

“And that means not suppressing the vote of our newcomers to America,” she told reporters as she introduced the bill.

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Am I correct in assuming you are you 16 years of age?

JWK

Of course the socialist Democrat Leadership want teenagers to vote. They scared the crap out of these children with Global Warming and Climate Change and promise the Democrats will come to mother earth’s rescue.

Are we to forget how they brainwashed and encourage innocent children to sing praise to Obama, the chosen one?

JWK

The Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s socialism, AKA Crony Capitalism, will promise food on the table, free public housing, health care for all, guaranteed income, free college tuition, and other niceties by taxing the so called rich; and if by chance their socialist leadership gains control because of such promises made, the end result, as John Adams stated, “will be revengeful, bloody, and cruel” especially for the most productive, hardworking members of the community.

I don’t recall innocent children in grade school being directed by “leftist” teachers to sing praises to those you mention.

:roll_eyes:

JWK

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez claims to be an advocate of hard working people living in the Bronx. If that is so, why is she not advocating an end to the unconstitutional “Temporary Victory Tax” of 1943, which began federal confiscation of the bread which working people have earned by the sweat of their labor?

No, I’m 35.

Are you a victim of a government school indoctrination/education?

JWK

The Federal Reserve System of 1913 and the Sixteenth Amendment, also of 1913, have spread the evil tentacles of crony capitalism into almost every corner of our once free market system.

Not recalling is not the same as not happening. These were dug up back when the Obama video first made headlines here. I’m not inclined to go on the hunt again but I did find this reference to at least one occurrence.
https://www.deseretnews.com/article/183592/CHILDREN-TO-SING-FOR-BUSH.html

That’s entirely different than innocent children in grade school being directed by socialist teachers to sing praise to Obama!

JWK

The liberty to succeed or fail at one’s own hand is a socialist’s nightmare and not the American Dream

16 is too young in IMO. Outside of my career, I coach HS track and talking to some these kids really can give you concerns about the future.

Put me down in the column of people who DON’T want Fox news viewers and talkradio listeners voting, as they are pervasively misinformed.

What I was saying is that age and wisdom are not the same. My sister-in-law is 17 and very logical/objective in her reasoning abilities. My dad is 64; he only watches only Fox News and can not have a debate without constantly changing the subject every three to four minutes when he can’t make a point.

I have seen this the other way as well. A lot of teenagers are irrational, but not all older people are wise.