Pelosi and the Dumbs want 16 year olds voting


#21

Hey, cool non-sequitur!

No, if we consider an adolescent responsible enough to try them as an adult, then we sure as hell should set that age as the bar for them to participate in the political process. If you don’t want adolescents to vote based on that criteria, easy fix: don’t try adolescents as adults.


#22

Correct, in cases involving capital crimes.
Next?


#23

So in your opinion an “adolescent” capable of committing a capital crime ( murder, rape, kidnapping etc), who depending on the jurisdiction is prosecuted as an adult. That same adolescent should be allowed to participate in the electoral process?
Not that some legislators are already tabling changes in the election laws to allow convicted felons the voting privilege.


#24

That’s because they haven’t got a job yet and have to pay taxes. What is the saying “If you’re not a liberal when you’re 25, you have no heart. If you’re not a conservative by the time you’re 35, you have no brain.’”


#25

She also wants “new comers” to the country to be able to vote!


#26

We should make a compromise. Raise the minimum voting age to 21 but have a maximum voting of 70. Deal?


#27

The drinking age should also be 18. If you’re old enough to die for your country you should be able to order a drink.


#29

Got a quote of her stating that?


#30

Adulthood needs to be the same for ALL aspects of life.

You want people to wait till they are 21 to buy a firearm and drink, I guess they can wait till 21 to vote as well.

Stop trying to piecemeal different ages for different things past the age of adulthood. If you think something needs to be pushed later than you need to change the age of adulthood.


#31

It seems they can’t wait start politically molesting them…it isn’t enough for libs to wait until they’re 18.


#32

It was changed to eighteen during the Vietnam war in direct response to the fact that they were out there dying for their country. It did take a Constitutional amendment as well, the twenty sixth I believe.


#33

She also believes dead democrats should be able to vote.

JWK

Do you really want single payer government operated health-care? Move into public housing [the projects in East Harlem or the South Bronx], live there for a year, and then make your decision about government run healthcare.


#35

A bunch of older people just got conned by a con man and elected him to be our president. Why should we worry about dumb people voting?


#36

Conspiracies… conspiracies EVERYWHERE!


#37

MANY older people voted for TRUMP, so obviously life experience doesn’t mean a whole lot if you’re stupid.


#38

Conned? Let me break the news to you. Our nation’s older generation has been keeping an eye upon the devastating social and economic impact illegal immigration is having in the country.

Let us take a look at the destructive social and economic consequences in just one county in California inflicted upon its citizens in 1995 when this massive invasion of our borders began to accelerate. CLICK HERE and scroll to page 93 for testimony given by JOAN ZINSER before the COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY, U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, DECEMBER 13, 1995

Good morning Chairman Smith and other honorable members of the Subcommittee on Immigration and Claims. I am Joan Zinser, Deputy Director of the San Diego County Department of Social Services. I direct the department’s Income Maintenance Bureau, which has responsibility for AFDC, Food Stamps and Medicaid eligibility determinations. I am here today to tell you about the effects of illegal immigration on the County’s assistance programs, and to present information regarding impacts on other county-funded services.

Impacts on San Diego County

In 1993, illegal aliens in San Diego County were estimated to be 7.9% of the population, or a total of almost 220,000 illegal aliens in a county with a population of slightly over 2 1/2 million. A 1993 Calffornia State Senate report estimated that the State, local governments - primarily the County - and schools incurred $304 million in costs to provide services to illegal aliens. These costs were offset by only $60 million in taxes generated by illegal aliens - leaving a net impact of $244 million.

Welfare Costs.

When a child is a US citizen, AFDC can be granted for the child but not the parent, if the parent is an undocumented immigrant. In 1992 there were 6,414 children born to undocumented immigrant parents in San Diego County hospitals. Each year, the illegal alien parents of nearly 2000 "citizen children" apply for and receive AFDC in San Diego County. The cumulative total of these "citizen child" cases continues to rise each year.

Public assistance is intended to support the citizen child, but is paid to the illegal alien parent and is, no doubt, used by the parent to support the entire family. Costs for providing AFDC to "citizen children" cases in San Diego totaled $37 million in 1993 for approximately 5430 AFDC cases.

Additional costs are incurred in Child Welfare Services. Combining costs for Out-of-Home and Family Maintenance services to families of illegal aliens results in an additional cost of $1.7 million.

Medicaid and Other Health-Related- Costs.

Medicaid services are an increasingly large portion of the costs involved in illegal immigration. In 1992, Medicaid paid for 6,414 births illegal alien mothers. Although studies have shown that illegal aliens use fewer Medicaid services than do the age-equivalent members of the general population, significant costs remain. Delivery costs are greater for babies with mothers lacking adequate prenatal care and many medical conditions are treated more cost-effectively in their early stages. Infectious diseases are also a major concern of the County. San Diego County has historically carried large costs because of illegal aliens with these problems. Costs associated with providing emergency and pregnancy related needs to illegal aliens are paid for under "restricted Medi-Cal benefits." During the 1992 calendar year, an estimated $37 million was paid for "restricted Medi-Cal benefits." Other costs, including uncompensated care in hospitals, community clinics, and other health services elevated the 1993 total costs to over $50 million.

Criminal justice.

A recent 90-day pilot project involved having INS Agents present in the county jails to interview those suspected of being an undocumented immigrant. Approximately 20% of the persons booked into the jails during that pilot were identified as being illegal aliens. With annual bookings of approximatel 105,000 persons a year, it is estimated that up to 21,000 were illegal aliens.

According to the San Diego County District Attorney, 8,521 felony crimes were committed by illegal aliens between 1987 and 1992. Illegal aliens commit an estimated 22% of felony crimes committed in the county. The number of misdemeanors committed during the same period in San Diego County by illegal aliens is estimated to be 17,000. In 1993, approximately 15. 1 % of the costs -accrued in dealing with crimes were spent on illegal aliens. Costs for illegal aliens to the legal system totaled $151 million in the County of San Diego for 1993.

Education.

Recently, a video of students crossing the border and getting on a school bus in San Diego County in order to receive free education was shown nationwide. Locally, we have worked to make sure that this situation does not recur, but education of the children of illegal aliens is also a significant CDSt. It is estimated that $60 million was spent in San Diego County in 1993 for education of illegal aliens.


And, more recently see:

Illegal aliens cost California billions

2004

”Illegal immigration costs the taxpayers of California — which has the highest number of illegal aliens nationwide — $10.5 billion a year for education, health care and incarceration, according to a study released yesterday.”

Also see:

Testimony about 51 Florida Hospitals in trouble due to illegal aliens expenses:

Jun 10, 2008

The above are the kind of facts our globalists want you to ignore, and expect you to continue to bear the burden of. Is there any wonder why so many hospitals in border states and elsewhere have shut down or closed their ER units!!!”?

Also take a look at Texas Faces Rising Cost For Illegal Immigrant Care

Aug 19, 2010

Texas spent at least $250 million in the past year for medical care and imprisonment of illegal immigrants and other non-citizens.

And how about this: The Fiscal Cost of Unlawful Immigrants and Amnesty to the U.S. Taxpayer

May 6, 2013

”In 2010, the average unlawful immigrant household received around $24,721 in government benefits and services while paying some $10,334 in taxes. This generated an average annual fiscal deficit (benefits received minus taxes paid) of around $14,387 per household. This cost had to be borne by U.S. taxpayers. Amnesty would provide unlawful households with access to over 80 means-tested welfare programs, Obamacare, Social Security, and Medicare. The fiscal deficit for each household would soar.”

And how about the tens of thousands of criminal aliens released into our nation’s population? See: Judicial Watch: 165,900 Criminal Aliens into US Population Through April 2014

Mar 2015

”Nearly 166,000 convicted criminal illegal aliens were released by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) as of April, 2014. This is the analysis of 76 pages of DHS documents obtained by Judicial Watch via Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests. The criminal illegal aliens include rapists, murderers and kidnappers.”

Why do you ignore the devastating impact illegal immigration is having upon American citizens? EH?

Why does your open border crowd work so hard to stop President Trump from protecting our border from an ongoing invasion?

JWK

American citizens are sick and tired of being made into tax-slaves to finance the economic needs of millions of poverty stricken, poorly educated, low skilled, disease carrying and criminal aliens who have invaded America’s borders.


#39

I find the average 16 year old is just as misinformed as the average 65 year old. So go ahead and vote.


#40

There’s a strain of thought in the left that thinks children are smart because they are unspoiled by life… Peter pan


#41

I heard she thinks Satan should be able to vote. And mosquitos. And viruses.


#42

Most people are not smart. Age really has little to do with it.