Paul Ryan slams Trump in speech about future of Republican Party

[Jezcoe]

@WuWei

@Borgia_dude

@WuWei

@DougBH

No.
The guy asked to look at internal polling.
Manafort gave it to him.
If it was ever used for anything, we have no idea. Or at least Mueller didn’t.

Internal polling is a state secret?

No. Why did Manafort give Russia that data?

To win an election?

You do understand how that is a bad thing… right?

[WuWei]

@Jezcoe

@WuWei

@Borgia_dude

@WuWei

@DougBH

No.
The guy asked to look at internal polling.
Manafort gave it to him.
If it was ever used for anything, we have no idea. Or at least Mueller didn’t.

Internal polling is a state secret?

No. Why did Manafort give Russia that data?

To win an election?

You do understand how that is a bad thing… right?

Sure, for the side that got caught. You do understand they all do the same things…right?

[Jezcoe]

@WuWei

@Jezcoe

@WuWei

@Borgia_dude

@WuWei

@DougBH

No.
The guy asked to look at internal polling.
Manafort gave it to him.
If it was ever used for anything, we have no idea. Or at least Mueller didn’t.

Internal polling is a state secret?

No. Why did Manafort give Russia that data?

To win an election?

You do understand how that is a bad thing… right?

Sure, for the side that got caught. You do understand they all do the same things…right?

They all give Russian Intelligence insider polling data during the same time that Russian Intelligence is working to effect the election?

They all do that?

[WuWei]

@Jezcoe

They all give Russian Intelligence insider polling data during the same time that Russian Intelligence is working to effect the election?

They all do that?

Or flood the country with illegals to keep the House. Or hire englishmen to write mythology.

Yeah, stuff like that.

[Paul_Do]

@DougBH

@Ben_Natuf

oh please. cheney was removed from leadership because she made her whole “self” about trump hate and refused to move on from it. all she had to do was stop talking about trump and start talking about policy. and this comes from a republican who liked vp cheney and trump

Cheney was positioning the Republican party for the 2022 elections by attacking Trump. She needed to be positioning the Republican party for the 2022 elections by attacking Biden’s and Pelosi’s issues.

This is going to destroy the right. They are unable to admit trump lost and it is hilarious to watch

[Jezcoe]

@WuWei

@Jezcoe

They all give Russian Intelligence insider polling data during the same time that Russian Intelligence is working to effect the election?

They all do that?

Or flood the country with illegals to keep the House. Or hire englishmen to write mythology.

Yeah, stuff like that.

Illegal immigrants can’t vote.

The public didn’t know about the Steele dossier until after the election and its only use was to obtain a FISA warrant on someone who had already left the Trump campaign.

If that is exactly like passing off inside information to Russian intelligence to win an election then I don’t see any middle ground here.

[Ben_Natuf]

trump lost. move on.

[JayJay]

@Ben_Natuf

trump lost. move on.

I think you need to tell the 60-70% of Republicans who don’t believe that he lost this very thing.

[JayJay]

@DougBH

@Jezcoe

How is saying that Trump actually lost the election an attack?

That’s why you think she was removed? Because she said Trump lost the election?

That’s precisely why she was removed.

There wasn’t even a hint of her being removed until Trump called her out at CPAC and threatened to primary her. And he threatened to primary her because of her stance on him, the election and the Capitol riot.

I’m with others…if we are not even going to try and occupy the same reality, it’s almost pointless to discuss things.

[johnrandolph]

@hindsight

Paul Ryan slams Trump in speech about future of Republican Party - CBS News

“If the conservative cause depends on the populist appeal of one personality, or on second-rate imitations, then we’re not going anywhere. Voters looking for Republican leaders want to see independence and mettle,” he said.

And leaving no doubt about who he was talking about, though he did not name Mr. Trump, Ryan continued, “They will not be impressed by the sight of yes-men and flatterers flocking to Mar-a-Lago.”

Paul Ryan should really look at his own actions while Trump was President… he enabled him and became a spineless “yes man” himself. It’s the reason why he’s not in office anymore. It’s as if these Trump bootlickers are trying to rewrite their own history amd suddenly grow a spine right after they lose power to actually do something about the very thing they’re complaining about.

Ryan became inconsequential a long time ago. Clearly he is hoping that by using the media’s willingness to provide a platform to any GOPer looking to earn establishment brownie points by deriding the Trump deplorables he can get back into the center ring.

[DougBH]

@JayJay

@DougBH

@Jezcoe

How is saying that Trump actually lost the election an attack?

That’s why you think she was removed? Because she said Trump lost the election?

That’s precisely why she was removed.

There wasn’t even a hint of her being removed until Trump called her out at CPAC and threatened to primary her. And he threatened to primary her because of her stance on him, the election and the Capitol riot.

I’m with others…if we are not even going to try and occupy the same reality, it’s almost pointless to discuss things.

No, it wasn’t her position on those issues.
It was the fact that she was making Trump and his supporters the main attack point for the 2022 election. She could have held whatever views she wanted as long as she did like any party leader and make the opposite political party the center of attack. And there is plenty to go after. Failure to enforce immigration laws, open borders, woke discriminatory policies.
But no. Lets have the Republicans run against Trump for 2022.
She needed to go…

[Jezcoe]

@DougBH

@JayJay

@DougBH

@Jezcoe

How is saying that Trump actually lost the election an attack?

That’s why you think she was removed? Because she said Trump lost the election?

That’s precisely why she was removed.

There wasn’t even a hint of her being removed until Trump called her out at CPAC and threatened to primary her. And he threatened to primary her because of her stance on him, the election and the Capitol riot.

I’m with others…if we are not even going to try and occupy the same reality, it’s almost pointless to discuss things.

No, it wasn’t her position on those issues.
It was the fact that she was making Trump and his supporters the main attack point for the 2022 election. She could have held whatever views she wanted as long as she did like any party leader and make the opposite political party the center of attack. And there is plenty to go after. Failure to enforce immigration laws, open borders, woke discriminatory policies.
But no. Lets have the Republicans run against Trump for 2022.
She needed to go…

I think that she sees Trump as an albatross around the neck of the party.

During his term the GOP did lose both Houses of Congress and the Presidency.

[JayJay]

It was precisely her position on those policies once Trump called her out for them.

McCarthy wasn’t going to do anything until Trump threatened her.

The timeline is clear.

Again…if some people are going to refuse to occupy reality…

[WuWei]

@Jezcoe

Illegal immigrants can’t vote.

Their family members can. And illegals can vote in many local elections. So that’s not really true, is it?

[WuWei]

@Jezcoe

I think that she sees Trump as an albatross around the neck of the party.

She’s correct.

[Jezcoe]

@WuWei

Their family members can.

If they are citizens they can vote.

@WuWei

And illegals can vote in many local elections. So that’s not really true, is it?

That is up to the locality… but we were talking about national elections.

[WuWei]

@Jezcoe

If they are citizens they can vote.

Yep.

@Jezcoe

That is up to the locality… but we were talking about national elections.

Are we? How convenient. All politics is local.

[Jezcoe]

@WuWei

Are we?

Yes… we were.

Can’t shift gears on the subject just to make a point.

[WuWei]

@Jezcoe

@WuWei

Are we?

Yes… we were.

Can’t shift gears on the subject just to make a point.

Well, I can, so that’s not really true either, is it?

[Jezcoe]

@WuWei

@Jezcoe

@WuWei

Are we?

Yes… we were.

Can’t shift gears on the subject just to make a point.

Well, I can, so that’s not really true either, is it?

I can’t stop anything from happening.

But shifting gears all of a sudden just to make a point is quite silly.

Especially in a low stakes thing like complaining to strangers on the internet.