The pastor’s comments do carry a “deer in the headlights” tone. Understandable, when suddenly the POTUS is at your door. Not exactly coercion, but how does one refuse in that moment?
From the pastor’s prospective … I guess?
But more importantly, from Trump’s perspective, no. Trump here, is clearly using religion as a political tool. That’s on Trump, not the pastor.
Exactly. In my view, a pastor or priest should be open to inviting people who even possibly offend some of the congregation. Sometimes complex views or ideas cause offense. I think that, as part of his balancing act, it is also part of that pastor or priest’s role to apologize to anyone offended. As Skynluv pointed out, I do not think that the goal of the church is a political one. Some might say that it is above politics.
Like the idea of the Pope meeting with Trump. What a disgusting idea. At least to my Christian mind. My cousin gets shudders when she thinks about clowns. When I imagine the Trump with the Pope, I get the same shudders. I need Pepto Bismol.
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As a general comment: If you’re going to talk to me, I am respectfully requesting that you get to the point. I will promise to try to do the same.
I’ve watched FoxNews. I have to . It’s on the TV at my job eight hours a day, while I sit at reception.
I’ve also watched MSNBC. I have to. It’s the only political thing that my family ever plays.
So can you please dispense with the tangents? The only reason those shows use them is to stretch time for more commercials so they can make more money.
I’m not here to make money.
Let’s just talk. I don’t care how you talk with everyone else, but if you reply to me with something from Shepherd Smith or the Five or even Sean Hannity, I’m gonna know it.
Please just tell me what you think.
Thank you, and God Bless.
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And please don’t tell me that an underlying crime is necessary for an obstruction of justice charge.
I’ve heard that nonsense of Fox News almost every day for the last three months, and my superior has shown me why it is pure propaganda.
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Forgiveness? I guess not.
Forgiveness in my post was a question for the reader, not for me.
Since you never asked but presumed the answer: I forgive the president for what he did, even if he never asks for forgiveness.
You are free to answer the question for yourself. Perhaps you believe that he never needed to ask for forgiveness. That is your prerogative.
If we could cut through some of the forum posturing a bit: I say what I mean. I don’t do forum rhetorical tricks.
In the future, I recommend that you say what you mean.
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You don’t, if you’re doing the will of God. You don’t apologize for praying with someone either.
That’s … definitely one way to interpret it, yes. But you’ll agree to that other point, that Trump made this move for political reasons?
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I have. You don’t like what I have to say. I can’t help that.
The optics are less than flattering for Donald, regardless. It wasn’t praying with, it was praying for.
Of course, you haven’t. And you can help that.
You should start by changing that right now.
Ego aside, what is the morally correct thing to do?
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I think Trump was being Trump. I’m not assigning any motives to his actions. Maybe it struck him at that moment to praise Jesus.
On the declared “Day to Pray for Trump”, you think Trump was just struck with the urge to praise Jesus. Really? That’s what you’re going with?
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Can you please tell me one single thing that he did that indicated his desire to praise Jesus?
His handlers explicitly said that they wanted a prayer for Trump.
You go to church three times a week. If one of your congregants called ahead an hour before mass and requested a prayer in his honor for the upcoming mass, what would be your reaction?
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I’m glad you’re putting your ego aside. What was the question? Morally right for whom?
Maybe Jesus deserves a day too, and we all know that Trump is a counter praiser. You praise him he praises back 10x as hard.
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