Parents or the state?

It’s a not a dodge. Someone made you the way you are. What with the perverts and the rights and your fundamentalist view of the constitution. So i am wondering who is all

Another swing and a miss.

I was reading the Constitution and opposed to progressivism well before it was being addressed in schools.

In fact it was because I read the Constitution that I became opposed to progressivism.

As for outlawing homosexual acts, them being unlawful, as these were generally illegal among all the several States that ratified the Constitution engaging in such acts can NOT be covered by A4:S2:C1 or the 9th Amendment (in places like DC or a Territory, incorporation is a crap theory). Simply : something illegal was not a right retained or a P&I among the several States.

And it still is not.

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Play-doh is soft when it first comes out of the can. As time goes on and it’s exposed to the air, it hardens into a rock. During the time it’s soft, it can be molded into whatever shape the sculptor chooses. The molding of children is much the same. The question is, whose hands will do the sculpting while the play-doh is soft?

In my world, those young that I have influence over, will have the parents as their primary sculptors. Then there’s the sculpting by grandparents, aunts, uncles, cousins, and the friends that parents deem ok. The educational system is allowed to touch softly at first but after positive results, allowed to shape additionally but with parental consent. By the time this child matures into an adult, the play-doh has hardened enough to withstand the daily beating life brings.

The world according to Smyrna. :sunglasses: :tumbler_glass:

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You sure about that?

“Schools are becoming indoctrination factories, trying to turn children against their country and their own parents’ values. It’s what the teachers unions intend.

Amazingly, that’s just fine with President Joe Biden, who told a gathering of teachers and union bigwigs on April 27 that the kids are “yours when they’re in the classroom.” That wasn’t just a Biden stumble. He repeated it for emphasis: “They are all our children … They are not somebody else’s children.”

Sorry, Joe. But parents have a right to know what their children are being taught, and to set limits. State legislators in at least 12 states have introduced bills requiring teachers to post teaching materials, including books and videos, on a website for parents to inspect before their kids see them.”

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Ask not why your young children need to be exposed to perverts, ask why perverts want access to flaunt their behaviors before your young children.

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Remind me again…why did that long time establishment Clinton hack democrat Terry what’s his name lose the governors race in Virginia.

“ In the Virginia gubernatorial debate on Tuesday evening, Democratic candidate Terry McAuliffe insisted that parents should have no role in directing the education of their children and doubled down in a subsequent media interview… You believe school systems should tell children what to do,” Youngkin said to McAuliffe. “I believe parents should be in charge of their kids’ education.”
In response, McAuliffe said, “I’m not going to let parents come into schools and actually take books out and make their own decisions,” adding, “I don’t think parents should be telling schools what they should teach.”…Asked in a subsequent interview whether parents should have buy-in on a school’s curriculum, McAuliffe doubled down: “Listen, we have a board of ed working with the local school boards to determine the curriculum for our schools. You don’t want parents coming in in every different school jurisdiction saying, ‘This is what should be taught here’ and, ‘This is what should be taught here.’”

Didn’t a bunch of school boards in Florida just flip…

Golly gosh I wonder why???

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Well, keep THEIR oil prices down.

Selling oil to Americans … maybe the ChiComs actually expect results for the money they provide?

If it were up to me, it would still be released but it wouldn’t leave our shores.

If he doesn’t have that ideal option available to him, then it can’t be helped. It should still be released to absorb the price shock while Ukraine folds Russia.

He doesn’t have to fill it back up at any particular rate. Just wait for oil prices to go down and use it as a price floor.

What role should parents have in determining what should be taught in schools?

How does it get resolved when some parents disagree with other parents in the same district?

Simple majority rules?

Hey guys are you sure you mean for the oil conversation to be in this thread about parents and schools?

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I read the constitution too. Your fundamentalist version is fascinating.

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Lots of things were unlawful for blacks to do, even after the 13th-15th Amendments were passed.

So because they were unlawful at one time, they couldn’t have possibly been retained rights (via the 9th Amendment) that were being restrained because of government overreach, right?

Ahhhhhhhh…then you must be aware of the next national emergency when “we” will need this reserve so out of curiosity, when is that?

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Ok. Deleting.

It’s a good discussion I’m just getting whiplash trying to keep up with the oil and the schools in the next post

This is from New Hampshire…

Imho there’s no excuse for hiding a child’s behavior from parents…period. Based on recent elections I don’t think I’m the only one.

“A school district in New Hampshire has reportedly declared it does not have a “duty” to inform parents of students about their child’s transgender identity or behaviors… Manchester School District (MSD) made the claim in legal filings while responding to a parent’s lawsuit against the school’s transgender policy, NH Journal reports… The parent is not entitled to know if their child is experiencing transgender ideation or dysmorphia at school, MSD reportedly claims, adding it wants the lawsuit dismissed.

(T)his motion can be easily resolved by answering one discrete question: Do school districts have a legally enforceable duty to inform parents when a student uses a name or gender pronoun different than that assigned at birth? Because the answer to this question is no, the Complaint should be dismissed,” MSD says in a court filing according to NH Journal.
The parent, an anonymous mother going by the pseudonym “Jane Doe” in her lawsuit, reportedly found out her child was using a different gender identity at school and claims it was kept secret from her by the school.”

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Why do you think some kids keep their sexual orientation hidden from their parents?

Not the point. The topic of the thread is schools…parents or the state?

At the point where schools start hiding things like little Johnny pretending to be little Janey from the parents the schools are out of bounds. The children don’t belong to the school…

Period.

Why do you think parents are consistently rejecting that kind of bs from their schools?

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Back to the motte!

Well done.