PA law makers move to end illegal no-excuse mail in voting used to poisoned 2020 election

No they weren’t.

Stop telling people things you’ve made up about a state in which you don’t live and know nothing about.

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Oh so absolutely nothing to do with it. Didn’t think so

Do you have anything to contribute to the topic?

I made nothing up! No-excuse mail in ballots violate PA’s Constitution and therefore, all that were counted are illegal!

Now, what specifically is it that you are saying I “made up” with regard to Pennsylvania.? I don’t appreciate your baseless and insulting charge.

JWK

Our socialist/fascist revolutionaries, which now control the Democrat Party Leadership, are known for accusing others of what they themselves are guilty of.

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Try again.

Why do you think there was a voting rights act?

Allan

No- they do not violate Pennsylvania’s Constitution…we’ve been through this.

It’s your opinion they violate the Constitution. In no way has it been established that they do…a case can be made that they don’t…and the time to bring it up in the first place was not after two elections where they had been promoted by both parties and had been used had passed.

The GOP in Pennsylvania is enacting a farce…claiming a law THEY overwhelmingly passed and promoted is unconstitutional the second it produced a result they didn’t like.

If you actually knew anything at all about this state, you’d know this.

But better to hide behind parroting nonsense than to actually learn something.

Your unsupported opinion is noted, but the fact is,

PA’s Act of October 31, 2019, P.L. 552, No. 77, which created no-excuse ballots, is unconstitutional. Here is why!

When one looks at the written law, it confirms no-excuse mail in ballots in PA are unconstitutional.

Clause 1 of Article VII of PA’s Constitution declares:

“Every citizen 21 years of age, possessing the following qualifications, shall be entitled to vote at all elections subject, however, to such laws requiring and regulating the registration of electors as the General Assembly may enact.”

And, Section 14 of Article VII of PA’s Constitution is titled:

§ 14. Absentee voting.

(a) The Legislature shall, by general law, provide a manner in which, and the time and place at which, qualified electors who may, on the occurrence of any election, be absent from the municipality of their residence,

because their duties, occupation or business require them to be elsewhere or who, on the occurrence of any election,

are unable to attend at their proper polling places because of illness or physical disability or who will not attend a polling place because of the observance of a religious holiday

or who cannot vote because of election day duties, in the case of a county employee, may vote, and for the return and canvass of their votes in the election district in which they respectively reside.

As anyone can see, Section 14 provides two, and only two ways by which a qualified elector may cast his or her vote in an election:

(1) by submitting his or her vote in propria persona at the polling place on election day; and

(2) by submitting an absentee ballot, but only if the qualified voter satisfies one of the conditions under which absentee voting is authorized as outlined above in “Absentee voting”.

The Act of October 31, 2019, P.L. 552, No. 77, which legislatively attempts to fundamentally change and expand allowable conditions for Pennsylvania’s “Absentee Voting” and permitting no-excuse mail-in voting without amending Pennsylvania’s Constitution, is a clear Violation of PA’s Constitution ___ Clause 1 of Article VII, § 14. Absentee voting.

The Act of October 31, 2019, P.L. 552, No. 77 is a legislative attempt to fundamentally change Pennsylvania’s voting system, permitting no-excuse mail-in voting, without amending Pennsylvania’s Constitution!

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JWK

Our socialist/fascist revolutionaries, which now control the Democrat Party Leadership, are known for accusing others of what they themselves are guilty of.

Florida has had the option of mail-in ballots for over 20 years. Other than the “hanging chad” debacle, which was about poll voting, I’ve never heard anyone on the right complain.

I’m still more concerned about the redistricting in PA. AT BEST republicans can hope to have an even split in the state. The redistricting strengthened Democratic strongholds, weakened or gutted Republican strongholds, and gave democrats more than they ever could have hoped for.

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Are you suggesting Florida’s voting laws are the same as Pennsylvania’s voting laws?

JWK

First the President is cut off from twitter, then Sen. Hawley’s book is cancelled, then the WalkAway Facebook page is taken down, Parler is removed, and even Mike Lindell, our pillow guy, is banned from Twitter by its socialist revolutionary control freaks. And now ‘Walkaway’ founder Brandon Straka is arrested by Biden’s FBI. Is it not self-evident a dangerous and un-American pattern is developing to cancel patriotic conservative speech?

Meanwhile the democrats want to take away the states rights to end no excuse mail in voting and force more of this so that votes don’t have to be verifiable.

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The two don’t relate to each other. Just because a voter can request a mail-in ballot does not mean the vote is not verified.

Mail-in ballots are verified.
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No, I’m just wondering why the right isn’t upset with Florida’s mail in ballots. What’s the difference?

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So why do none of you guys like to bring up the states that changed their procedures closer to the election to allow 100% unsolicited ballots relying on possibly inaccurate voter registration rolls? Why do you only want to bring up states that have used verifiable procedures and ballot request procedures for years only?

Because I think those states are the ones they really have an issue with, IMHO.

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This thread is about PA lawmakers. I don’t believe that PA had unsolicited mail in ballots. So why would the PA lawmakers be the ones that have an issue with something not happening in their state?

WW

California, Vermont, New Jersey, and Nevada.

Those are the states that switched to Universal vote-by-mail in 2020 - and yet, they don’t seem to be the states that Republicans have issues with.

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So? Y’all can bring up other states and scream huh? Huh? Huh? at everyone but no one else can bring up other states? There’s a word for that.

You forgot Montana

Just for FYI

For the general election, at least 30 states plus the District of Columbia have made at least some changes that will make it easier and more accessible for voters to cast their ballots from home. These changes include removing strict excuse requirements or allowing COVID-19 concerns to be a valid excuse to vote absentee, allowing ballot drop boxes, offering prepaid postage on election mail and proactively sending all active registered voters applications to request an absentee ballot – with some even skipping that step and sending the actual ballots.

The states are: Alabama, Arkansas, California, Connecticut, Delaware, District of Columbia, Georgia, Illinois, Iowa, Kentucky, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Texas, Vermont, West Virginia and Wisconsin.

Montana is a little different, in that the whole state did not go to universal vote by mail, but the state did allow individual counties to choose to do so, if they wanted.

My point is none of those states (except maybe Nevada) are close to being swing states - and out of all the states in which the right has been screaming about “fraud”, none of them are on that list.

I don’t know what you mean by the “right”.

Additionally, Google is your friend. Do some research to find your answers.

JWK

The walkaway movement is the socialist/communist democrat leadership’s worst nightmare