Over a 1000 New Democrat voters departed Honduras new caravan


When even Fox news turns on you…

"The figures are clear. The numbers of illegal immigrants entering the country have dropped significantly in the last 10 years while the numbers of those overstaying their visas have risen. However, overstays only represented about 1 percent of those who lawfully travelled to the United States in 2017.

It’s not our borders that are the problem. They are statistically more secure than they have ever been."


LOL. Half of them (or more) would vote republican if the GOP didn’t treat them and pretty much all dark skinned immigrants as untouchables.

They have plenty of conservative and religious values.


BS Republicans loves the Cubans who the last I checked were latino with the same skin melatonin of Mexicans and Central Americans. The Latino’s who come from the south of the border overwhelmingly vote for bigger government. The only way to gain their vote is to quit being conservative.


They come here and vote democrat because Rs treat them like ■■■■■


They can’t possibly have written the following passages from that EO with a straight face;

© expedite determinations of apprehended individuals’ claims of eligibility to remain in the United States;

(d) remove promptly those individuals whose legal claims to remain in the United States have been lawfully rejected, after any appropriate civil or criminal sanctions have been imposed;

(e) cooperate fully with States and local law enforcement in enacting Federal-State partnerships to enforce Federal immigration priorities, as well as State monitoring and detention programs that are consistent with Federal law and do not undermine Federal immigration priorities.


This guy’s district has over 800 miles of border…


Yep. You make choices every day and that’s why you are, where you are.


Yep and the closer you geographically get, the closer politically you are…comprende?


You have no valid argument for the wall, all of the evidence points to a wall being nothing more then a waste of money.


The United States of America spent billions on a wall for Israel and here are the results.

The Israeli West Bank barrier or wall (for further names see here) is a separation barrier in the West Bank or along the Green Line. Israel considers it a security barrier against terrorism, while Palestinians call it a racial segregation or apartheid wall.[1][2][3] At a total length of 708 kilometres (440 mi) upon completion, the border traced by the barrier is more than double the length of the Green Line, with 15% running along it or in Israel, while the remaining 85% cuts at times 18 kilometres (11 mi) deep into the West Bank, isolating about 9% of it, leaving an estimated 25,000 Palestinians isolated from the bulk of that territory.[4]

The barrier was built during the Second Intifada that began in September 2000, and was defended by the Israeli government as necessary to stop the wave of violence inside Israel that the uprising had brought with it.[5] The Israeli government says that the barrier has been effective, as the number of suicide bombings carried out from the West Bank fell from 73 (between 2000 and July 2003 – the completion of the “first continuous segment”), to 12 (from August 2003 to the end of 2006).

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Suicide bombings have decreased since the construction of the barrier.[7][48] Al-Aqsa Martyrs’ Brigades, Hamas, and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad have been less able to conduct attacks in Israel, which have decreased in areas where the barrier has been completed.[49][50]

The Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Israel Security Agency report that in 2002, there were 452 fatalities from terrorist attacks. Before the completion of the first continuous segment (July 2003) from the beginning of the Second Intifada, 73 Palestinian suicide bombings were carried out from the West Bank, killing 293 Israelis and injuring over 1,900. After the completion of the first continuous segment through the end of 2006, there were only 12 attacks based in the West Bank, killing 64 people and wounding 445.[6] Terrorist attacks declined in 2007[6] and 2008[51] to 9 in 2010.[52]

The Ministry of Foreign Affairs predicts that completion of the barrier will continue to prevent terrorist attacks[53] since “[a]n absolute halt in terrorist activities has been noticed in the West Bank areas where the fence has been constructed.”[49]

Israeli officials (including the head of the Shin Bet) quoted in the newspaper Maariv have said that in the areas where the barrier was complete, the number of hostile infiltrations has decreased to almost zero. Maariv also stated that Palestinian militants, including a senior member of Islamic Jihad, had confirmed that the barrier made it much harder to conduct attacks inside Israel. Since the completion of the fence in the area of Tulkarm and Qalqilyah in June 2003, there have been no successful attacks from those areas. All attacks were intercepted or the suicide bombers detonated prematurely.[54] In a March 23, 2008 interview, Palestinian Islamic Jihad leader Ramadan Shalah complained to the Qatari newspaper Al-Sharq that the separation barrier “limits the ability of the resistance to arrive deep within [Israeli territory] to carry out suicide bombing attacks, but the resistance has not surrendered or become helpless, and is looking for other ways to cope with the requirements of every stage” of the intifada.[55]

Other factors are also cited as causes for the decline. According to Haaretz , a 2006 report by the Shin Beit concluded that “[t]he fence does make it harder for them [terrorists]” but that attacks in 2005 decreased due to increased pursuing of Palestinian militants by the Israeli army and intelligence organizations, Hamas’s increased political activity, and a truce among Palestinian militant groups in the Palestinian Territories. Haaretz reported, “[t]he security fence is no longer mentioned as the major factor in preventing suicide bombings, mainly because the terrorists have found ways to bypass it.”[56] Former Israeli Secretary of Defence Moshe Arens says that the reduction in Palestinian violence is largely due to the IDF’s entry into the West Bank in 2002.[57]

Border fence in Israel cut illegal immigration by 99 percent, GOP senator says

Here are just two valid arguments but…it’s still a waste of time because you really don’t care.


Your argument is a bunch of copy paste about Israel’s wall? You are right it is a waste of time, the US border has never been more secure then now, fact.


I heard that $5B would buy a whooping 230 miles of wall. Where would that go? Don’t know since this administration won’t tell us.


So their problem and ours are exactly the same?