One question is critical for January 6

[gooddad409]

@WildRose

Once the ballots are separated from the mailers I’m not even sure if it would be possible due to laws protecting “the secret ballot” process.

We know for example a hell of a lot of ballots were mailed to dead people, people who had moved out of state, and those who could not legally vote which were returned with completed ballots.

How could you ever separate those?

How could you identify ballots cast in person by people illegally when they are only caught after the election is over and segregate them?

We need to rethink the whole, “secret ballot” process as there should be a way to identify, tag, and segregate ballots that are later proven to have been cast unlawfully.

I’d propose identical bar codes on the mailers and included ballots and the assignment of bar codes matching each individual ballot cast in person tying them to the voter.

That would work if applied to both sides. It was reported on the news that some area tried it but only bar coded gop voters not the dems.

[gooddad409]

@WildRose

I’m all for it but you have to allow absentee voting for those who cannot be present, particularly for military and civilians stationed/working overseas.

I want biometric proof of voter ID/eligibility as well.

The regular absentee is fine but not mass mail in voting. Too many fraud opportunities with mass mail in votes.

That’s why Stacy Abrams and others pushed hard for it.

[Oryx]

@gooddad409

That would work if applied to both sides. It was reported on the news that some area tried it but only bar coded gop voters not the dems.

[WorldWatcher]

@gooddad409

@WildRose

I’m all for it but you have to allow absentee voting for those who cannot be present, particularly for military and civilians stationed/working overseas.

I want biometric proof of voter ID/eligibility as well.

The regular absentee is fine but not mass mail in voting. Too many fraud opportunities with mass mail in votes.

That’s why Stacy Abrams and others pushed hard for it.

Georgia didn’t have mass mail-out of unsolicied mail-in ballots.

Voters had to request one which is the same in pretty much every battle ground state.

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[Tom_Ch]

@wiley8425

“everyone saw it happen, everyone knows it happened”

Neither of which are true, which tells me everything I need to know.

I wish “everyone” had a cell phone to record these illegal actions. People record every darn thing known to man yet fail to record this so call massive fraud. Yea right!

[sikofit]

@gooddad409

That would work if applied to both sides. It was reported on the news that some area tried it but only bar coded gop voters not the dems

And you believed that?

[sikofit]

@gooddad409

The regular absentee is fine but not mass mail in voting.

Why hasn’t the GOP ever raised alarms about Utah who has done mass mail-ins since 2014?

[Tom_Ch]

@Optrader

@wiley8425

Yeah, it’s not as if the Republicans prevented the actual eyewitnesses from testifying or anything. Oh wait.

Democrats had control big the ENTIRE impeachment process. They didn’t let any eye witnesses testify on Trump’s behalf. Where did you get your law degree BTW, evidence was presented by the house. How come THEY didn’t call eye witnesses?

Is this a real question? republicans can call witness.

[PurpnGold]

@Optrader

Literally almost everything we do, and you Libs understand and support the need for ID in all those circumstances, yet when engaging in the most fundamental and important right in our country, it’s you guys who fight tooth and nail to oppose any form of reliable verification. No ID, no signature required for mail in votes. Please spare me the Lib ■■■■■■■■ about the great steps taken to ensure the integrity of this election.

Would this also apply to Republicans? Not needing an ID isn’t just exclusive to Democrats. Republicans can also take advantage.

Why do you assume only Dems cheat because of no ID requirements when Republicans vote in the same counties that have no voter is requirements?

[Optrader]

@biggestal99

@Optrader

A lot of establishment Republicans hate Trump too. And as I said, producing well hidden illegal ballots that have been deliberately mixed with legal ballots in a very short time is damn near impossible, especially when those that would have to produce them are the ones that hid them in the first place. That was part of the plan, there was plenty of time
to carry it out…

So the the fraud was so ingenious that it is undetectable.

But it happened. The perfect steal. And only the congress can make it right on Wednesday in spite of no evidence.

Allan

No, it wasn’t undetected at all as hundreds of witnesses have sworn to, and lots of fraudulent ballots have been produced, just not enough in any one location for a judge to believe it could change results. Also, how would it be determined who actually submitted a fraudulent ballot even if it was produced and turned over.

Democrats counted on the chaos of mail in ballots and the difficulty in finding and proving and holding responsible people accountable. If you actually looked at all the irregularities and anomalies that occurred, you’d realize there’s no way Biden had a legitimate win. I don’t believe any of you Libs actually believe that Biden is so inspiring that he got more votes than any Democrat in history including Barack the wonderful and while I get a lot of people hate Trump, He had a massive turnout too. It just isn’t conceivable that TDS accounts for the difference. Trump was neither the worst, most corrupt or inept President, even in recent history for hatred to swing the victory to Biden.

If you guys had a shred of intellectual honesty, you’d realize many things don’t add up to a Biden win. Nevertheless, Thief in Chief Kid Sniffer will get the office so apparently once again, Libs demonstrate that the ends justify the means. Better hope Lib cheating also gains the Senate too otherwise Bidens destructive agenda is going to be greatly hindered and the stage is set for the Republicans to take back the House in 2022. We’ll know by the end of today…

[Optrader]

@WorldWatcher

@Optrader

How can you audit something you can’t even verify? The problem was not in the counting, the problem was proving no ineligible votes were cast. How was that done?

You know that election officials know exactly who voted and by what method (in-person v. mail-in) right? They have to be registered voters and their vote is logged in as cast then the ballot is received to prevent double voting.

With that they can investigate an individual and determine if an illegal vote was cast. For example the dead vote for Trump when a guy tried to vote as his dead mother.
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Who cast the tens of thousands of ballots that were just sent out without request? If a ballot arrived at the home of someone who moved, how do you know someone didn’t illegally fill it out and send it in in someone’s else’s name? You don’t and there is absolutely no practical way to prevent people from doing exactly that. If the current resident denied doing it how would you prove otherwise? How about ballots that went to empty houses? What would prevent someone from taking those ballots?

These are just a couple issues with mass mailing ballots as opposed to sending ballots to those people who requested one. Again, it was just such issues that Democrats counted on and there are many more. These things could have been easily prevented, but as always, it was Democrats that simply won’t take steps to ensure integrity in our voting system.

[Optrader]

@Tom_Ch

@wiley8425

“everyone saw it happen, everyone knows it happened”

Neither of which are true, which tells me everything I need to know.

I wish “everyone” had a cell phone to record these illegal actions. People record every darn thing known to man yet fail to record this so call massive fraud. Yea right!

I’m not sure recording in polling places is legal but I’m guessing that the lack of videos from any election probably means it isn’t.

[Snowfinch]

@Optrader

just not enough in any one location for a judge to believe it could change results.

@Optrader

If you actually looked at all the irregularities and anomalies that occurred, you’d realize there’s no way Biden had a legitimate win.

This is contradictory. Not enough proof for a judge to conclude wide scale fraud, but I am supposed to make this conclusion. And without any opportunity to examine evidence myself or see witnesses cross examined.

I’ve looked into every claim I have come across and none have come close in fact or scale to bring the results into question.

The PA law changes are probably the most convincing case of “unfairness” and the laws may be struck down. But it is a difficult sell to call those fraudulent votes rather than legitimate votes collected under an unconstitutional statute. The difference between the two is immense.

[Optrader]

@Tom_Ch

@Optrader

@wiley8425

Yeah, it’s not as if the Republicans prevented the actual eyewitnesses from testifying or anything. Oh wait.

Democrats had control big the ENTIRE impeachment process. They didn’t let any eye witnesses testify on Trump’s behalf. Where did you get your law degree BTW, evidence was presented by the house. How come THEY didn’t call eye witnesses?

Is this a real question? republicans can call witness.

Not true. Adam Schiff had total control of who got called as witnesses during the house impeachment. He did not allow Republicans to call witnesses on Trump’s behalf. The opportunity to call so called “eye witnesses” was during the impeachment. No judge would allow a prosecutor to rest his case and then after the fact expect the defense to call witnesses the prosecutor failed to call. Why didn’t the house call all the witnesses they wanted? The Republicans could not have stopped them from testifying…

The truth is, if YOU were the one put on trial for anything based on nothing more than an anonymous person claiming to have overheard someone else expressing an opinion on something they felt was illegal, you’d scream bloody murder and so would every single last Lib in America, and for that matter, not one single lawyer would file charges or one single judge allow such a proceeding to happen in their court. But because an impeachment doesn’t work quite the same way as s legal trial and because the person accused was Donald Trump, he wasn’t entitled to the same rights and considerations as every other citizen in our country. Scumbag Libs in congress were free to ■■■■ him over with impunity knowing full well a nation full of TDS affected, brain dead Lib minions don’t have the moral decency to stand up for injustices done to people they hate…

[Optrader]

@PurpnGold

@Optrader

Literally almost everything we do, and you Libs understand and support the need for ID in all those circumstances, yet when engaging in the most fundamental and important right in our country, it’s you guys who fight tooth and nail to oppose any form of reliable verification. No ID, no signature required for mail in votes. Please spare me the Lib ■■■■■■■■ about the great steps taken to ensure the integrity of this election.

Would this also apply to Republicans? Not needing an ID isn’t just exclusive to Democrats. Republicans can also take advantage.

Why do you assume only Dems cheat because of no ID requirements when Republicans vote in the same counties that have no voter is requirements?

Because Republicans are the ones trying to get ID laws enacted. If you want to cheat, you don’t insist on enacting laws that would prevent it…

[Oryx]

@Optrader

The truth is, if YOU were the one put on trial for anything based on nothing more than an anonymous person claiming to have overheard someone else expressing an opinion on something they felt was illegal, you’d scream bloody murder and so would every single last Lib in America, and for that matter, not one single lawyer would file charges or one single judge allow such a proceeding to happen in their court.

Impeachment is a political process, not a legal process.

[PurpnGold]

@Optrader

Because Republicans are the ones trying to get ID laws enacted. If you want to cheat, you don’t insist on enacting laws that would prevent it…

Republicans representatives are trying to pass those laws. However until those laws are passed republican voter can vote in a lot of places without an ID.

So why assume that CURRENTLY ONLY Democrats are “cheating” because of no voter ID requirements?

As a matter of fact every found vote cheater in the 2020 election has been a Republican.

[Optrader]

@Snowfinch

@Optrader

just not enough in any one location for a judge to believe it could change results.

@Optrader

If you actually looked at all the irregularities and anomalies that occurred, you’d realize there’s no way Biden had a legitimate win.

This is contradictory. Not enough proof for a judge to conclude wide scale fraud, but I am supposed to make this conclusion. And without any opportunity to examine evidence myself or see witnesses cross examined.

I’ve looked into every claim I have come across and none have come close in fact or scale to bring the results into question.

The PA law changes are probably the most convincing case of “unfairness” and the laws may be struck down. But it is a difficult sell to call those fraudulent votes rather than legitimate votes collected under an unconstitutional statute. The difference between the two is immense.

The difficult sell is the problem. No judge wants to cause civil war without overwhelming irrefutable proof. The fraud only had to happen in a few select areas and in just enough numbers and really in known areas that could be easily affected by a few thousand votes. Funny thing, Biden underperformed Hillary everywhere EXCEPT those few key areas and Trump was leading In all those areas all night until those miraculous Biden votes began appearing as needed in just those areas…

[Konssurvative1]

@Bill.in.PA

The recent hearings in Georgia, experts presented unrefuted evidence that computers with the voting system subtracted votes from Trump and added them to Biden, and the changes were not in response to human input. There is no valid basis for the system to subtract votes from a candidate in this manner.

LINK???

[Snowfinch]

@Optrader

Funny thing, Biden underperformed Hillary everywhere EXCEPT those few key areas and Trump was leading In all those areas all night until those miraculous Biden votes began appearing as needed in just those areas…

Can you list these areas or give me some more detail so I can look for myself?