Oliver North to be new NRA president

NebraskaFootball · 2018-05-08T23:45:52.385Z

WildRose:

They absolutely were. The TOW 1 only had a shelf life of 3 years. The Hawks we sold them had been obsolete since the early 70’s. There was no way either were ever going to be a threat to US forces if in the future we got into an armed conflict with them.

Please provide your source for this claim. Thanks in advance.

NebraskaFootball · 2018-05-08T23:47:08.121Z

WildRose:

As already stated, they only had a 3 year shelf life due the guidance wires. Beyond three years from date of production they became brittle and snapped when fired which causes the missiles to instantly ground themselves and explode.

Link? This is very specific information, surely there is a plethora of articles confirming these details.

WildRose · 2018-05-08T23:50:54.001Z

Huhes/Raytheon, FM 3-22.34

party-free · 2018-05-08T23:51:28.490Z

WildRose:

His convictions were overturned for exactly those reasons.

Yes, the reasons being a technicality, not that he didn’t commit the crimes.

WuWei · 2018-05-08T23:52:25.691Z

What crimes? Was he convicted of selling weapons to Iran?

WildRose · 2018-05-09T00:06:00.652Z

Additionally the TOW 1 could not be fired over either standing or running water or during periods of rain/fog because that too would short out their guidance system.

CaughtInTheMiddle · 2018-05-09T00:09:55.018Z

party-free:

WildRose:

His convictions were overturned for exactly those reasons.

Yes, the reasons being a technicality, not that he didn’t commit the crimes.

Not only that he admitted a ton of the stuff he did. He was almost proud of the laws that he broke.

Law and Order.

Borgia · 2018-05-09T00:53:12.613Z

WildRose:

He sold out of date busted junk and obsolete junk to people opposed to the Ayatollah in hopes of getting hostages back and maybe eventually getting the Ayatollah overthrown.

A very worthwhile gamble.

Can you source this? I looked it up at various news sites and couldn’t find anything about faulty weapons.

WuWei · 2018-05-09T00:53:50.207Z

Strange…

tnt · 2018-05-09T01:26:23.369Z

can you cite a source that backs up this claim of yours?

How dumb were the iranians to buy useless weapons from us?

tnt · 2018-05-09T01:27:15.849Z

And BTW, the weapons given the iranians weren’t from our stock.

WuWei · 2018-05-09T01:34:59.825Z

Uh oh. Somebody’s on a trail.

johnrandolph · 2018-05-09T02:04:44.156Z

madasheck:

My, my, my. Maybe I shouldn’t be surprised at this, but a change was definitely needed with LaPierre’s horrible public image. North will be somewhat of a fix to that, I think. That said, though, it’ll be interesting to see how he handles the job and if he does a better job than LaPierre.

Pretty much kills any interest I had in rejoining the NRA

WildRose · 2018-05-09T06:57:50.103Z

It doesn’t matter who’s stock they came from the same problems existed throughout the TOW 1 line as well as the pre upgrade Hawk systems.

Samm · 2018-05-09T08:23:25.871Z

blueapplepaste:

Just an excuse for them becoming a radical group that is nothing more than lobby for gun industry.

More propaganda. It is obvious that you know nothing about the NRA except what you have been told to believe.

WildRose · 2018-05-09T08:29:27.773Z

At this point as thoroughly debunked as that talking point has been they know it isn’t true but are working on the theory, “If you repeat a lie loud enough and often enough people will begin to believe it’s true”.

reflechissez · 2018-05-09T08:43:08.015Z

WildRose:

At this point as thoroughly debunked as that talking point has been they know it isn’t true but are working on the theory, “If you repeat a lie loud enough and often enough people will begin to believe it’s true”.

It’s an opinion. How can it be "throughly debunked?

WildRose · 2018-05-09T08:46:20.274Z

It’s a statement of fact that is totally unsupportable otherwise it couldn’t have been so thoroughly debunked.

reflechissez · 2018-05-09T08:48:47.034Z

WildRose:

It’s a statement of fact that is totally unsupportable otherwise it couldn’t have been so thoroughly debunked.

Opinions are not facts. Where’s the “thorough” debunking?

WildRose · 2018-05-09T08:56:54.242Z

Laid out fact by fact in the last several threads we had on the subject.

Why bother rehashing it all again when the next time it comes up you’ll once again pretend we haven’t already done so repeatedly.

A fairly decent article on the subject though can be found here.

FactCheck.org – 15 Jan 13

Do Assault Weapons Sales Pay NRA Salaries? - FactCheck.org

A Connecticut Democrat didn’t get his facts straight when he claimed NRA executives “pay their salaries” by taking “a cut” of assault weapons sales. In arguing that the NRA “represents gun manufacturers” and not “gun owners anymore,” Sen. Christopher...

Est. reading time: 5 minutes

The overwhelming majority of the NRA’s money comes from the membership, not from “The Gun Industry” and that hasn’t changed since it’s inception.

They fight for 2nd Amendment Rights, not for those evil producers of death machines.

Do gun manufacturers benefit? Of course they do particularly every time there is another attack on gun rights because that drives people to the stores to buy guns they would otherwise put off of not purchase at all and to stock up on ammo.

Oddly, the more successful the NRA is at protecting 2nd Amendment rights the less it benefits the manufacturers because it is when our rights are under serious threat that sales go through the roof.

Eliminate such challenges to the 2nd and the industry would quickly flatten as it did temporarily following the 2016 election.