Old brands being redone

[Call_me_Ishmael]

so all the talk about how Donald Trump and his father discriminating against African Americans in housing in the 60s… that’s now dismissed because we had different standards then? I see.

Interesting.

[Borgia_dude]

@Call_me_Ishmael

no distraction. You said you forgive people who do black face if they apologize but not people who do heinous crimes. But you certainly forgave Democrat Senator Byrd for his inhumane terrorizing of black people. Or… oh this must be it … you think the Exalted Cyclops of the local KKK in West Virginia would not have done such things in the 40s and 50s.

So it was no distraction since you brought up murder .

Integrity test, part 2.

Does the severity influence the ability to forgive? Yes or no?

[Nemesis]

@Call_me_Ishmael

so all the talk about how Donald Trump and his father discriminating against African Americans in housing in the 60s… that’s now dismissed because we had different standards then? I see.

Interesting.

Not at all because he actually discriminated against African Americans.

Again if you cannot see the difference then I cant help you further.

[Call_me_Ishmael]

@Borgia_dude

@Call_me_Ishmael

no distraction. You said you forgive people who do black face if they apologize but not people who do heinous crimes. But you certainly forgave Democrat Senator Byrd for his inhumane terrorizing of black people. Or… oh this must be it … you think the Exalted Cyclops of the local KKK in West Virginia would not have done such things in the 40s and 50s.

So it was no distraction since you brought up murder .

Integrity test, part 2.

Does the severity influence the ability to forgive? Yes or no?

sure. So it sounds like you won’t be forgiving Joe Biden for raping. But let’s look at these other things that you seemed to gloss over.

@Call_me_Ishmael

wait… so if someone did something in the past but stopped doing it and apologized, then they are OK? Wow… Do you apply that criteria to everyone or only liberals who get caught doing black face, raping women, fondling young children or stuff like the Don Lemon “smell my fingers” trick?

or is consistency and intellectual honesty off topic?

How about “smell my fingers” Don Lemon. Sexual assault? Forgive him? How about nuzzlin Joe Biden with his hands and mouth and nose all over little children? Forgive him? Is it on the same level as blackface? What about the Governor of VA and his black face? Or a liberal Trudeau? Forgive them?

Intellectual honesty test 3.

[Borgia_dude]

@Call_me_Ishmael

@Borgia_dude

@Call_me_Ishmael

no distraction. You said you forgive people who do black face if they apologize but not people who do heinous crimes. But you certainly forgave Democrat Senator Byrd for his inhumane terrorizing of black people. Or… oh this must be it … you think the Exalted Cyclops of the local KKK in West Virginia would not have done such things in the 40s and 50s.

So it was no distraction since you brought up murder .

Integrity test, part 2.

Does the severity influence the ability to forgive? Yes or no?

sure. So it sounds like you won’t be forgiving Joe Biden for raping. But let’s look at these other things that you seemed to gloss over.

@Call_me_Ishmael

wait… so if someone did something in the past but stopped doing it and apologized, then they are OK? Wow… Do you apply that criteria to everyone or only liberals who get caught doing black face, raping women, fondling young children or stuff like the Don Lemon “smell my fingers” trick?

or is consistency and intellectual honesty off topic?

How about “smell my fingers” Don Lemon. Sexual assault? Forgive him? How about nuzzlin Joe Biden with his hands and mouth and nose all over little children? Forgive him? Is it on the same level as blackface? What about the Governor of VA and his black face? Or a liberal Trudeau? Forgive them?

Intellectual honesty test 3.

You seem confused. Let’s backtrack a bit. Remember when I said this;

@Borgia_dude

Are they continuing to do it like Shirley or did they stop, apologize and not do it again?

You see. It’s a whole lot easier to forgive someone if they actually apologize and stop doing the egregious behavior.

That Shirley Q. Liquor still uses blackface to this day makes it rather hard to forgive. But maybe you don’t have any problem with blackface today. I don’t know.

[anon91495210]

Yes, because criticizing individual actions of disrespecting the flag is EXACTLY the same as losing your mind over a statue or a picture on a product and DEMANDING they be removed… I can say this, I’m offended at kneeling during the flag. I’m not trying to take their ability away to do it, I’m just changing the channel.

[Janet_Miller]

- YouTube

Yeah, I guess that UF snowflake thinks only non white prisoners perform tasks like working in the fields.

I wonder what he has in mind for them instead of inmates working. Bored inmates starting riots, maybe?

[Call_me_Ishmael]

yes… this is how we got here. Yes. The “crime” is forgiven if the liberal apologizes. Can you name anyone who is NOT a liberal who you have forgiven for their deeds after they say “sorry” and apparently stop doing those things?

Remember Paula Deen?

Remember Roseanne Barr?

Remember Trump’s apology about the Access Hollywood tape?

[Borgia_dude]

@anon91495210

Yes, because criticizing individual actions of disrespecting the flag is EXACTLY the same as losing your mind over a statue or a picture on a product and DEMANDING they be removed… I can say this, I’m offended at kneeling during the flag. I’m not trying to take their ability away to do it, I’m just changing the channel.

That’s fair enough. So you disagree with Green Beret Nate Boyer who said:

“We sorta came to a middle ground where he would take a knee alongside his teammates,” Boyer tells HBO. “Soldiers take a knee in front of a fallen brother’s grave, you know, to show respect. When we’re on a patrol, you know, and we go into a security halt, we take a knee, and we pull security.”

[JayJay]

@anon91495210

Yes, because criticizing individual actions of disrespecting the flag is EXACTLY the same as losing your mind over a statue or a picture on a product and DEMANDING they be removed… I can say this, I’m offended at kneeling during the flag. I’m not trying to take their ability away to do it, I’m just changing the channel.

The President of the United States demanded the players who knelt be fired.

He backed up that demand by threatening the NFL’s antitrust exemption.

[JayJay]

@Call_me_Ishmael

And no "hunter of color " ever did that? Even in Africa with captured tribes? Have you ever read how the Zulus treated their captives? But you seem to want to say this is an issue of racism. How about it’s an issue of decency, humanity, and compassion.

Are we in Africa?

[AngraMainyu]

@JayJay

@Call_me_Ishmael

And no "hunter of color " ever did that? Even in Africa with captured tribes? Have you ever read how the Zulus treated their captives? But you seem to want to say this is an issue of racism. How about it’s an issue of decency, humanity, and compassion.

Are we in Africa?

Yeah, I don’t know how that negated anything either.

[Call_me_Ishmael]

Strawman question. Your side of the cultural divide is talking about white crimes against black people. Are we now limiting our concern to the United States?

If so, that’s great .We can put all that stuff that occured before there was a United States to rest. No more talk about 1619. Ok.

[AngraMainyu]

@Call_me_Ishmael

Strawman question. Your side of the cultural divide is talking about white crimes against black people. Are we now limiting our concern to the United States?

If so, that’s great .We can put all that stuff that occured before there was a United States to rest. No more talk about 1619. Ok.

What a bizarre obfuscation.

[coolidge]

No they made light hearted jabs at different things. They had a clumsy white guy, forgot his name, but he was funny.

[CanadianJudo]

Are people really this upset about product branding

[CanadianJudo]

Do you want a sticker?

[coolidge]

It was what made a lot of it funny though. Maybe today, people are just too serious on all sides

[Mountain_Soldier]

@Borgia_dude

@anon91495210

Yup. It’s called humor. It’s no different than stuff making fun of any other group. Black people make fun of white stereotypes all the time and it’s funny as hell.

Ok. And blackface is A-OK in your book. Good to know.

Good enough for the VA governor, so why not? Libs love him for passing every single gun control item he can get his hands on.

[Mountain_Soldier]

@Dem

These threads are always so interesting. They always boil down to:

Minority: says something is offensive and has a racist history

White conservative: I don’t find it offensive, so you shouldn’t either.

I kinda get it, different life experiences and all that. But rather than listening to what others feel, it’s ouright dismissal.

Works for both parties.