Official 2020 1st presidential debate thread

[Samm]

@tzu

I was taken by the state as well. Because violence.

Here’s what physical punishment produces: shame, wrath, dislocation, dissociation, contempt, scapegoating and violence. If you are one of the lucky ones.

I was raised under the concept of corporal punishment when deserved and I suffer from none of those syndromes. Maybe your generation is just too sensitive.

[Samm]

@amadeus

The suburb will eventually become unsustainable.

No … they may eventually become absorbed and left with nowhere to expand to, but they are and will remain perfectly viable places to live.

[Samm]

@amadeus

@Paul_Thomson

@amadeus

In fact, he condoned white supremacy.

When did he condone white supremacy?

By not condemning it.

It doesn’t work that way.

[Samm]

@PurpnGold

@gooddad409

In fact Biden absolutely refused to condemn BLM and ANTIFA.

Not true. He condemned all riots and violent protesting.

He said it last night more than once. Unequivocally.

But he will not put a name on the guilty. Why?

[Samm]

@DisturbedGuy

ANTIFA is the cons boogeyman. I hear if you say their name 3 times in a mirror, they move into your neighborhood.

They are not the Con’s boogeyman, they are this nation’s boogeyman. How anyone cannot see that they’re in business purely to destroy our form of government and our society astounding. They have zero redeeming value. Prove me wrong.

[Samm]

@AngraMainyu

Definitely didn’t read the article, confirmed.

Don’t presume to know what I have or have not done. As I said, you … through the posting of that article … move the bar from our previous discussion.

[DougBH]

@Samm

@amadeus

@Paul_Thomson

@amadeus

In fact, he condoned white supremacy.

When did he condone white supremacy?

By not condemning it.

It doesn’t work that way.

Fox News, August 13, 2017

“We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides, on many sides," the president said. “It has been going on for a long time in our country – not Donald Trump, not Barack Obama. “It has been going on for a long, long time. It has no place in America.”

Trump also called for a study of the situation, and Attorney General Jeff Sessions on Saturday night announced a civil rights investigation into the events surrounding the “Unite the Right” rally.

[Samm]

In fairness, he was referring to all violence, not white supremacy.

[DougBH]

@Samm

In fairness, he was referring to all violence, not white supremacy.

"And as I have said many times before: No matter the color of our skin, we all live under the same laws, we all salute the same great flag, and we are all made by the same almighty God. We must love each other, show affection for each other, and unite together in condemnation of hatred, bigotry, and violence. We must rediscover the bonds of love and loyalty that bring us together as Americans.

Racism is evil. And those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans."

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/statement-president-trump/

No ambiguity there.

Now when reporters ask Trump to condemn white racists, he doesn’t just direct them to this and tell them it has not been revoked, I can’t guess.

[DisturbedGuy]

@Samm

@DisturbedGuy

ANTIFA is the cons boogeyman. I hear if you say their name 3 times in a mirror, they move into your neighborhood.

They are not the Con’s boogeyman, they are this nation’s boogeyman. How anyone cannot see that they’re in business purely to destroy our form of government and our society astounding. They have zero redeeming value. Prove me wrong.

They are crap…never said they weren’t. Cons pretending they’re some big part of the dem party is false. The ONLY place you ever hear talk of the boogeyman ANTIFA is in the right’s talking points.

[WCD9973]

Close. What were your thoughts when Obama use to say that? And are they the same thoughts now?

[Axxowiz]

I think the suburbs are getting a resurgence after Covid-19 at least temporarily that is. I never thought I would live in the suburbs until I did, Unfortunately it’s looking like the property taxes might go up a lot more in my area because of all the demand and low inventory. It’s not helping a lot of people are moving here from the city as well as California from the coronavirus.

On the one plus side I have read were rent has come down a whole lot in New York City as well as San Francisco since the virus so maybe people who really wanted to live in the city will have a chance.

[Paul_Thomson]

@amadeus

By not condemning it.

Wallace: "Will you condemn white supremacy?’

Trump: “Sure.”

Sounds like a condemnation to me.

[PurpnGold]

@Paul_Thomson

Wallace: "Will you condemn white supremacy?’

Trump: “Sure.”

Sounds like a condemnation to me.

No

If I said “Will you go to the store with me”

And you said “Sure”, then proceeded to not go with me. Does it matter that you said “sure”

Your “sure” only matters if you actually do what I asked.

[Paul_Thomson]

If I ask you,
“What store?” and you say,
“Jupiter,” a planet not a store, I might say,
“Stand back and stand by.”

[gooddad409]

@Samm

@PurpnGold

@gooddad409

In fact Biden absolutely refused to condemn BLM and ANTIFA.

Not true. He condemned all riots and violent protesting.

He said it last night more than once. Unequivocally.

But he will not put a name on the guilty. Why?

He refused to condemn BLM and ANTIFA just like i said. He doesn’t want to alienate a sizeable portion of his base.

That would include the thugs from those organizations out rioting plus amazingly enough those who support that.

[DisturbedGuy]

False. Chris Wallace was trying to ask him, but Trump kept interrupting and Wallace gave up.

[rp5x5]

@amadeus

@Paul_Thomson

He did condemn white supremacy. No one has demonstrated that the Proud Boys’ are white supremacists.

In fact, he condoned white supremacy.

You must have misheard something.

[PurpnGold]

@Paul_Thomson

If I ask you,
“What store?” and you say,
“Jupiter,” a planet not a store, I might say,
“Stand back and stand by.”

You would still need to actually take action. Simply saying “Sure” as a answer to “will you ___?” Is not taking the action. It’s agreeing to the action.

[rp5x5]

Listen again at the time of the question, listen to both Wallace and Biden. A cacophony of babble that was nearly incomprehensible, Wallace squishes “white supremacy” in with “Proud boys”
and Biden is talking over the whole thing.

Everyone knows Trump had said numerous times he condemns “White Supremacy” ideology.

These reporters and leftists have sieves in their brains.