........OBBB Thread

That’s helpful.

If you can afford one is the key phrase For those cut from Medicaid the majority will not buy an individual plan. When Medicaid restarted enrollment eligibility after Covid the majority of those who were cut and did not have health insurance elsewhere, did not move to an individual plan.

Anyway, looking at the actual proposed changes, there will not be a new cut off amount for eligibility. More minor changes being made, such as a 35 dollar copay on some services for people who make above the poverty level.

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Well, the changes must result in MC enrollment reductions, otherwise, they don’t get their savings to offset some of the spending and tax cuts.

So…

I think the hard to follow stuff about state funding requirements, and of course the work requirement, are the stuff that will be knocking people off it.

Weren’t you the one who told me there were no tax cuts, that my rates would remain the same?

If the tax cuts expire, and our rates go up, the govt. with take in X over the next ten years.

If they vote to extend the current rates, the govt. will take in LX (less than X).

They are paying for a very small part of the difference with MC cuts among other things…but primarily MC cuts…

IF you are on Medicaid you can’t afford a basic policy.

By cutting Medicaid, you take people who would have paid the medicaid rate at the ER - which is maybe 50% of commercial - and have them paying the “I have no money to pay this bill” rate, which is 0% of commercial.

The hospital subsidizes that 0% by increasing rates for commercial. There is no magic money tree for hospitals. They can’t make up the difference by getting more from Medicare. Commercial (and the tiny out-of-pocket cohort) is the only other revenue stream.

You don’t get 600B in savings by adding a $35 copay. You get it by subtracting a large number of people from the program.

I keep hearing about GOPers saying 'we’re only removing people who shouldn’t be on it…"

BUt if that’s what they are doing, they don’t get 600B. They NEED to keep 10-12 M off or they don’t get the savings…

And of course, our media doesn’t follow up with that. They just accept the answer and move on.

I’ll take a reduction of $60 total, if that’s all it gets. Any reduction is better than an increase.

The ones on Medicaid already are big er users.

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Dead beats. I see no need to reward deadbeat behavior.

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2.5T+ in new deficits - IF they manage to meet those Medicaid cuts.

They stand zero chance of doing that. It’s one thing to talk about other people losing coverage. It’s another to be Senator Cotton talking about a large percentage of your constituents.

I get that…I’m just suggesting we’re either going to get the savings they are promising, but more americans without insurance than they are claiming, or, we are going to get only the frauds and illegals off medicaid as they are suggesting, and not nearly they savings they are promising.

Users of what?

“Everyone’s going to die…”

Of course you are.

You don’t even have to type it. We all know what you’re going to say regarding just about anything.

The ER.

Lots of doctors don’t even take new medicaid patients. Many medicaid patients use the ER as their primary medical service.

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20% of people in the united statesunder the age of 65 use medicaid.

thats A LOT of people.

Allan