Obama. The Worst President in American History?

Apparently Trump was paying attention to Alaska. HE opened up ANWR to drilling for them, after decades of stalling on it by others.

AGAIN, you don’t have to show up to pay attention to a state.

M

So now you are admitting they don’t need tend to campaign in small states even under the current EC. Agreed. I can go back and quote you where that was your concern. Seems your goalposts have been shifting as your original premise proves faulty.

No.

I’m telling you they send proxies, listen to voters, do ad buys, do polling - ALL without the candidate needing to show up.

What they learn from all that is what the state is interested in and needing.

But NONE of those things will be at all necesssary in a popular vote national election. You just need to worry about four or five states, promise them the moon and screw the rest.

M

And I showed you a republican strategist advising Trump to spend no money in Alaska because of the electoral college being a lock for Alaska. Your point that the EC encourages people to campaign or spend in little states is just not true.

And yet you cannot tell me how much money they DID spend in Alaska or how much attention they paid to the expressed needs of Alaskans.

What I see is Trump QUiCKLY made Alaskans a butt-load of money, after getting elected.

Face it. With a national popular vote YOU KNOW that all the candidates will concentrate all their efforts, their money and their time in the five most populous states and the rest can pound sand.

WHY NOT???

It’s a loser for all the rest of the country, which is why it doesn’t stand a chance in hell of passing.

M

Doesn’t look good for your case when campaigns spend almost all their time in 12 states.

Dude, concentrate. You are all over the place here. Telling us what happens AFTER an election in no way bolsters your argument that campaigns will pay attention to small states DURING an election. Remember that was your original premise.

And AGAIN you don’t have to go to a state to have a presence in a state.

Just HOW MANY times does this need to be explained to you? You send proxies, you do ad buys, you do polling, you listen to voters, you get out the vote…All this costs MONEY and it is money well spent in the current system.

In a national popular vote You do NONE of that in any but 5 states. That’s where you spend every dime because they ALONE will determine the election.

NOT A CHANCE that will ever be allowed to happen, if the rest of the union has anything to say about it - and they do.

M

Dude, I gave you a link that described how the vast majority of campaign efforts went to 12 states and Alaska wasn’t one of them. If you want to pretend that doesn’t contradict your premise go ahead. If you can, go ahead and show me evidence that Trump or Clinton took Alaska seriously.

NO.

You showed where 2/3rds of EVENTS were and ALSO showed that more than HALF of the states in the country got at least 1 visit by either the Presidential candidate or the Vice-Presidential candidate, and I also detailed a LOT MORE campaign efforts than just those visits.

If you thing the GOP didn’t campaign in all the states you don’t have a clue how a campaign works.

It’s CLEAR that if at least HALF the states get a visit under the EC and only 5 would under a popular vote the EC is BY FAR a better deal for the states.

The evidence that Trump took Alaska seriously is that as soon as he could he did something Alaskans have asked for for decades, but have been rebuffed on time and time again - Open up ANWR.

He CLEARLY was listening to Alaskans.

Give it up man. Even your own site PROVES that the EC is better than a popular vote would be!

M

Nobody cares about alaska…stop it.

Tell that to Borgia Dude, not me.

He’s the one who keeps bringing it up.

M

You said he was clearly listening to alaskians…

Well no…that’s just your fluffy spin on things

Marky, every state will have done campaign volunteers and workers. If you think that would disappear under a non-EC system I think that’s crazy.

The bolder seems like a guess on your part. One I disagree with although I would welcome any evidence you have other than your gut feeling.

We’re talking about campaigns. Not what happens after. You claimed presidential candidates would ignore Alaska under a popular vote system. I say they ignore it now under an EC system.

It’s ok, everyone reading knows the truth.

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I have evidence.He did what they have been aslking to do for decades.

What evidence do you have that he was ignoring them?

M

You can only guage who was ignored by the RESULTS.

The results show he was listening to them.

It’s okay, We can all see the results.

M

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I think tha vast majority WILL disappear. That is money that is totally unneccessary to be spent there under a Popular Vote.

Better to use every nickle where it helps - 5 states only.

M

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2008 spending in Alaska by McCain:

McCain and his interest groups spent just $1,836.

No.

your own link shows that 26 states were visited by candidates unbder the EC.

There would be NO REASON to visit any but the 5 most populous states under popular vote.

M

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2004

Neither campaign advertised or visited this state during the fall campaign.