Obama. The Worst President in American History?


They are small population states compared to the very few that a candidate would need if they were going only for a national popular vote.

And of course, there are MANY states that are far, far less populous that would be totally ignored - despite their obvious benefit to the country for being a state.

Alaska, screw you with your teensy population!!

And NO, the FedGOV cannot just tell the states they will receive no money. Where in hell did you get that??? When the FedGov denies a state any money that they are otherwise given by Congress they have to have a specific and connected reason - like the 55 mile speed limit to get federal funds to fix federal highways.

In fact, the FedGov already tried to connect federal money given to local law enforcement with the sanctuary cities and the courts said “NO WAY” - even though it is clearly a law enforcement issue.



Court makeups change. I seem to recall many cries of judicial activism when that ruling came down. So which is it? Do you agree with that ruling or do you understand the federal government can do what they will given the right circumstances?

Fact is almost exclusively the fed gets their way. Trump being a feckless moron cant get anyone to agree with him is his own fault.


And they have congressmen to look out for those interests, the presidents job is the country not states.


I can’t agree. There are many times that the FedGov doesn’t get their way. It just depends on the merits of the argument and as you say it can also comes down to which judge hears the case, but it is not a slam dunk for the FedGov, every time.

In this case I see the point of the states. They are squeezed between a person’s 4th amendment rights and the needs of the FedGov. I think they could be FAR MORE helpful to ICE, however, and let them know ASAP when they have an illegal in their posession, and do all they can - within the legal limits - to aid ICE in collecting them in a timely fashion.

They are instead going in the opposite direction - doing all they can to make sure ICE never knows of them, and certainly not in time to help them.

I think that borders on treason. It’s shameful.



Where is that written???

You seem to think that the only representation a state should have is in the Senate. Why? Does the president not affect the states, also??

This is EXACTLY why the EC was created - to make sure the states have a say in the administrator of the country they are a part of.



I cant think of too many times when the Fed doesnt get ther way, and when they do is pretty short lived. Less than a generation maybe two and it goes the other way. I times they havent it was pretty much lack of political will not the potential to force it.


States have a say in the administrator of the country they are a part of, citizens who live in the state vote for president.


Citizens are not always aware of the needs of the state. In fact they are rarely aware of anything but their own needs.

But you seem to want to negate the PROMISE made to the states when they became states in the frst place, which was that they would hold this power and privilege.

They will not give it up, easily.



I think you underestimate the power of the courts.



Yep they won’t.


On the contrary I think it is you that does so, and its part and parcel of why we all see so many judicial activism threads on this site even when it isn’t actually so.


Okay, we are going to have to agree to disagree.



TBF he is the best president in Kenyan history though.


It’s cool to be homeless and deficate on the streets in California.

I think we should ask the rest of Americans if they want that for all of America?
I think I know the answer though.

It’s ok, the Democratic Politicians in Washington, will force their Socialist Agenda
on America.


I wonder if Socialism and the Soviet Union would have a lot in common or not?

Communist Democrat Politicians and Russia? Whaaa?


SOCIALISM: Joe gets up at 6 a.m. and fills his coffee pot with water to prepare his morning coffee. The water is clean and good because some tree-hugging liberal fought for minimum water quality standards.
With his first swallow of water, he takes his daily medication. His medications are safe to take because some stupid commie liberal fought to ensure their safety and that they work as advertised.
All but $10 of his medications is paid for by his employer’s medical plan because some liberal union workers fought their employers for paid medical insurance - now Joe gets it too.
He prepares his morning breakfast, bacon and eggs. Joe’s bacon is safe to eat because some girly-man liberal fought for laws to regulate the meat packing industry. In the morning shower, Joe reaches for his shampoo. The bottle is properly labeled with each ingredient and its amount in the total contents because some crybaby liberal fought for his right to know what he was putting on his body and in what amount. Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean because some environmentalist wacko liberal fought for the laws to stop industries from polluting our air.
He walks to the subway station for his government-subsidized ride to work. He saves considerable money in parking and transportation fees because some fancy-pants liberal fought for affordable public transportation, which gives everyone the opportunity to be a contributor.
Joe begins his work day. He has a good job with excellent pay, medical benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because some lazy liberal union members fought and died for these working standards. Joe’s employer meets these standards because Joe’s employer doesn’t want his employees to call the union.
If Joe is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed, he’ll get a worker’s compensation or unemployment check because some stupid liberal didn’t think he should lose his home because of his temporary misfortune. It’s noontime and Joe needs to make a bank deposit so he can pay some bills. Joe’s deposit is federally insured by the FSLIC and FDIC because some godless liberal wanted to protect Joe’s money from unscrupulous bankers who ruined the banking system before the Great Depression.
Joe has to pay his Fannie Mae underwritten mortgage and his below-market student loan because some elitist liberal decided that Joe and the government would be better off if he was educated and earned more money over his lifetime.
Joe is home from work. He plans to visit his father at his farm home in the country. He gets in his car for the drive. His car is among the safest in the world because some America-hating liberal fought for car safety standards. The roadway is safe and well-marked because the engineer who designed it learned her craft at a government subsidized school.
He arrives at his boyhood home. His was the third generation to live in the house, financed by the Farmer’s Home Administration because bankers didn’t want to make rural loans. The house didn’t have electricity until some big-government liberal stuck his nose where it didn’t belong and demanded rural electrification.
He is happy to see his father, who is now retired. His father lives on Social Security and a union pension because some wine-drinking, cheese-eating liberal made sure he could take care of himself so that Joe wouldn’t need to.
Joe gets back in his car for the ride home, and turns on a radio talk show. The radio host keeps saying that liberals are bad and conservatives are good. He doesn’t mention that the beloved Republicans have fought against every protection and benefit that Joe enjoys throughout his day. Joe agrees:“We don’t need those big-government liberals ruining our lives! After all, I’m a self-made man who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have.”


I hope that lil Joey wants to share everything that you just mentioned
in your story material wise.

Cause he doesn’t have a choice either way! lol. his money, his car,
and anything else. lol. He’s ganna get a lot less bacon. lol.

those darn cheese eating Liberal Socialists own every farm in America,
and own everyone’s house.


That might be the most comprehensive beat down I’ve ever read here.


Nice fairy tale.


The truth and nothing but.


Ok, you are making the argument to preserve the EC because it causes presidential candidates to visit the small states like Alaska. So for your argument to have merit, the candidates, under our current EC, should be visiting Alaska, right?

Are they?