Oath Keepers leader found guilty of seditious conspiracy

[FreeAndClear]

@Piper

@FreeAndClear

Yes he was having a temper tantrum and he still is. Each and every concern is based on the fact that he lost. Each and every thing that he called into question was solely because he lost. That’s a temper tantrum. Even when he won he called the popular vote into question because he lost it.

So now we gotta deal with y’all changing the meanings of phrases to make us sound as bad as possible. Before, it was just words now it’s . . . . . . .what’s next? Whole sentences? Paragraphs? Entire books?

Y’all need a kill switch.

What?

You: “There is not a shred of evidence that he was having a temper tantrum”

Me: of course he was because he was complaining solely because he lost.

You: how dare you change the meaning of terms

First of all temper tantrum is a subjective thing so i am not changing anything. Much like whining it’s from the perspective of the person listening to it

Second of all he was having one and he still is.

[DougBH]

“All of this wouldn’t have happened”. Meaning a trespass that paused congress a few hours.
Sorry. “All of this” was not, as some pretend, on the level of 9/11 or Pearl Harbor.

[DougBH]

The FBI conspiring with Twitter and Facebook was more of an insurrection than what happened at the Capitol.

[Guilds]

@DougBH

The FBI conspiring with Twitter and Facebook was more of an insurrection than what happened at the Capitol.

[Nemesis]

Of course election fraud is serious and anyone found guilty of it should face harsh penalties. The processes and flows regarding the logistics of elections should be continually reviewed and improved.

No system is fool-proof and identifying fraud helps to identify weaknesses so these can be eliminated.

However Trumps continual cries of fraud have diluted the seriousness of election fraud. According to Trump and his supporters every state he lost was fraud. No credible evidence has been presented and fraud cases have time and time again failed in the courts.

Yes fraud occurs, it always has and always will but Trumps loss was not due to fraud.

[LucyLou]

@Piper

@Safiel

Solely because Trump refused to concede (acting like a petulant man-child) and spineless politicians refused to promptly condemn him, a bunch of dupes went on a insurrection and are paying the price for Trump’s temper tantrum.

There is not a shred of evidence that shows Trump having a temper tantrum.

Now on the other hand, that one y’all kiss the ring of …

Are you sure you know what an insurrection is??

He’s still having his sore loser temper tantrum lol.

[LucyLou]

@DougBH

“All of this wouldn’t have happened”. Meaning a trespass that paused congress a few hours.
Sorry. “All of this” was not, as some pretend, on the level of 9/11 or Pearl Harbor.

“a trespass”

[NickN]

@Nemesis

However Trumps continual cries of fraud have diluted the seriousness of election fraud. According to Trump and his supporters every state he lost was fraud. No credible evidence has been presented and fraud cases have time and time again failed in the courts.

Yes fraud occurs, it always has and always will but Trumps loss was not due to fraud.

So exactly what’s your beef? Cite examples. From my vantage point, President Trump is being treated unfairly by especially the press for daring to speak out about his concerns on election fraud. After all, isn’t organizing to speak including obtaining permits to assemble and peacefully protest all legal and encouraged in this country?

[Guilds]

@NickN

for daring to speak out about his concerns on election fraud.

Cons have been whining about election fraud, for decades…despite multiple studies by all sides that clearly states it is not an issue, and has not affected any elections.

For cons, that reality, is used as the proof there is election fraud.

Why are cons almost always wrong?

[DougBH]

Libs have consistently complained about stolen elections. The Supreme Court, not the voters, made GWB President. Election exit polls showed Kerry really got the most votes. The Russians stole the election from Hillary (Democrats used this myth to undermine an administration).

[Camp]

Trump suspected it then.

We know it now.

[Guilds]

@DougBH

Libs have consistently complained about stolen elections.

Interesting you note that…even though it is not really true…

There is Nixon sabotaging the peace talks in '68 to keep the Vietnam war going, promising a better deal. This treason is documented. Simply google “President Johnson alerts Sen. Everett Dirksen”.

Then there is Reagan who cut a deal with Iran, to not release the hostages. Reagan then sold them arms…And Papa bush pardoned all of those involved, under the advice of…Bill Barr.

The recount of Bush V Gore showed Gore won Florida. But the SCOTUS handed W the presidency. Who was the lawyer presenting the case? Some guy named John Roberts. Where is he now?

[Guilds]

@Camp

We know it now.

Y’all don’t know jack. All y’all have is conspiracies and fantasies.

[DougBH]

Everything you wrote there is false. In fact a newspaper later did a review if Democrats had gotten their Florida recount and found Bush would have won.
The rest is just left wing conspiracy theories.

[Camp]

Twitter files are fact.

Trump was right, he just didn’t know why then.

[Camp]

[Guilds]

@DougBH

Everything you wrote there is false. In fact a newspaper later did a review if Democrats had gotten their Florida recount and found Bush would have won.
The rest is just left wing conspiracy theories.

The nixon treason is documented by audio…
The Iran thing was proven again recently.

I will concede W…even though there are some indicators Bush lost. Bush did lose the popular vote.

[Guilds]

@Camp

Twitter files are fact.

Vivid imaginations…nothing more.

[Supreme_War_Pig]

@Nemesis

However Trumps continual cries of fraud have diluted the seriousness of election fraud.

Especially when you recall that Trump alleged fraud from the very beginning, in the Republican primaries of 2015-16. He has literally been pushing this crap for years.

[Camp]

Fact. No matter how much you dislike it.

The sixth installment of Twitter Files revealed details about the social media service’s integrated relationship with the FBI.

Thursday, journalist Matt Taibbi released a series of tweets that proved the agency treated Twitter as a “subsidiary.” #TwitterFiles6 further affirms our July column that described Twitter as an agent of the government.

The documents also confirm that law enforcement organizations began flagging numerous accounts for purportedly harmful “misinformation” in January of 2020. As expected, Twitter responded dutifully.

Specifically, Twitter Files 6 notes a “surprisingly high number” of the FBI’s requests asked the social media service to take action on what it considered “election misinformation.” This request included accounts that engaged in satire.

Twitter Files 6: FBI, Biden Administration Strong-armed Social Media Platform

Then they went after Taibbi…

Jim Jordan gives IRS hard deadline to hand over documents on Matt Taibbi

This is NOT OK.

“The #TwitterFiles are revealing more every day about how the government collects, analyzes, and flags your social media content. Twitter’s contact with the FBI was constant and pervasive, as if it were a subsidiary,” Taibbi tweets.

“Between January 2020 and November 2022, there were over 150 emails between the FBI and former Twitter Trust and Safety chief Yoel Roth… a surprisingly high number are requests by the FBI for Twitter to take action on election misinformation, even involving joke tweets from low-follower accounts.”