NYTimes:Trump Gave Dark Speech leaning into the culture wars and barely mentioning the pandemic

kermode · 2020-07-06T13:44:02.192Z

Ben_Natuf:

still spreading the leftist propaganda I see. The evidence that this occurred is unverified and not highly credible. But it served the purpose of some lib either in the State Department, CIA or a democrat staffer of one of the gang of 8 who had this raw unverified intel 2 months ago to illegally leak it. Currently, it is more likely false than it is true. But you go with that.

Fine. Discount the reports if you choose.
Why should he be extending an invite anyway. Is Putin all better now?

Invitations to Putin.
Love letters to/from Kim.
How about the salute to that NK general? A ■■■■■■■ salute???
A Real Patriot© he is.

NuffSaid · 2020-07-06T13:47:04.770Z

kermode:

Ben_Natuf:

still spreading the leftist propaganda I see. The evidence that this occurred is unverified and not highly credible. But it served the purpose of some lib either in the State Department, CIA or a democrat staffer of one of the gang of 8 who had this raw unverified intel 2 months ago to illegally leak it. Currently, it is more likely false than it is true. But you go with that.

Fine. Discount the reports if you choose.
Why should he be extending an invite anyway. Is Putin all better now?

Invitations to Putin.
Love letters to/from Kim.
How about the salute to that NK general? A ■■■■■■■ salute???
A Real Patriot© he is.

Trump seems to have some keen interest in dictators. Ruthless, brutal dictators.

kermode · 2020-07-06T13:49:32.519Z

NuffSaid:

Trump seems to have some keen interest in dictators. Ruthless, brutal dictators.

It’s pretty obvious he envies their power.
Pretty common with cowards.

Ben_Natuf · 2020-07-06T13:50:04.354Z

Something wrong with public invites instead of secret messages about more flexibility?

We should be reaching out to Putin while we maintain tough sanctions… guess what, we are.

He tried something new with NK, it almost worked… so I guess we’re back to let them have nukes, or really let them have nukes. It’s the only 2 options if we don’t do something else. He tried something else.

Nothing wrong with the President returning a salute to a soldier that saluted him, it’s the polite thing to do. The soldier after all is serving his nation, ■■■■■■ up as it might be.

NuffSaid · 2020-07-06T13:50:33.552Z

kermode:

NuffSaid:

Trump seems to have some keen interest in dictators. Ruthless, brutal dictators.

It’s pretty obvious he envies their power.
Pretty common with cowards.

I’m sure he called Putin and congratulated him on his “victory” to extend his reign of power for another 16 years. And then asked Putin how he (Trump) might be able to do the same in the US.

WuWei · 2020-07-06T13:53:12.354Z

NuffSaid:

Trump seems to have some keen interest in dictators. Ruthless, brutal dictators.

kermode:

It’s pretty obvious he envies their power.
Pretty common with cowards.

The United Nations Human Rights Council is now officially and perpetually China's (insert your choice of pejorative here) Politics

So, Trump has been right about China. Who would have thought? If Democrats get into the WH, the US will be voting the same way as Belarus.

DougBH · 2020-07-06T13:58:36.071Z

Why on earth would a President of the United States try to get along with the second strongest nuclear power on earth? What possible benefit could there be to that? Is it best just to hand over billions to Iran, so there will be more nuclear powers and other countries that we KNOW are supporting terrorists.

JimmyC · 2020-07-06T14:13:05.685Z

Uh, Mr. President, speaking of lowest ratings ever…

NuffSaid · 2020-07-06T14:18:22.878Z

DougBH:

Why on earth would a President of the United States try to get along with the second strongest nuclear power on earth? What possible benefit could there be to that? Is it best just to hand over billions to Iran, so there will be more nuclear powers and other countries that we KNOW are supporting terrorists.

Who handed over billions to Iran?
Wait, still peddling this falsity?

Why would we “get along” with a country that tried to interfere in the 2016 elections? I’d hand out severe sanctions. There was a reason why Russia was kicked out of the G8. And here’s Trump, trying to get Russia back in, all on his own. No other country wants to deal with Russia.

Ben_Natuf · 2020-07-06T14:23:40.923Z

NuffSaid:

Why would we “get along” with a country that tried to interfere in the 2016 elections? I’d hand out severe sanctions. There was a reason why Russia was kicked out of the G8. And here’s Trump, trying to get Russia back in, all on his own. No other country wants to deal with Russia.

You must be going for the comedic genius award, cause that’s some funny ■■■■ there!

Russia has “interfered” in every election we’ve had since its been Russia, usually on the dem side, so I guess it wasn’t a problem then. They didn’t get Trump elected, they didn’t think he could win either. Their goal was to weaken the witch politically to make her less effective countering them when she became President.

No other country? BWAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA omg, my side, stop, you’re killing me.

lessright · 2020-07-06T14:26:43.181Z

So is soliciting foreign donations, setting aside the exception carved out for Trump.

kermode · 2020-07-06T14:26:48.619Z

Non sequitur.

The body language between Trump and Putin at Helsinki was pitiful.
Trump’s defense of Putin was even worse.

NuffSaid · 2020-07-06T14:27:07.123Z

Ben_Natuf:

NuffSaid:

Why would we “get along” with a country that tried to interfere in the 2016 elections? I’d hand out severe sanctions. There was a reason why Russia was kicked out of the G8. And here’s Trump, trying to get Russia back in, all on his own. No other country wants to deal with Russia.

You must be going for the comedic genius award, cause that’s some funny ■■■■ there!

Russia has “interfered” in every election we’ve had since its been Russia, usually on the dem side, so I guess it wasn’t a problem then. They didn’t get Trump elected, they didn’t think he could win either. Their goal was to weaken the witch politically to make her less effective countering them when she became President.

No other country? BWAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA omg, my side, stop, you’re killing me.

“Usually on the Dem side”

Proof of this?

WuWei · 2020-07-06T14:29:48.625Z

kermode:

Non sequitur.

The body language between Trump and Putin at Helsinki was pitiful.
Trump’s defense of Putin was even worse.

Sequitur. You are unfortunately small thinking.

kermode · 2020-07-06T14:31:46.093Z

WuWei:

Sequitur. You are unfortunately small thinking.

I can’t help it. I’m deranged.

WuWei · 2020-07-06T14:32:32.900Z

kermode:

WuWei:

Sequitur. You are unfortunately small thinking.

I can’t help it. I’m deranged.

I don’t think you are. It’s easy to get caught up in the flow.

kermode · 2020-07-06T14:38:02.690Z

WuWei:

I don’t think you are. It’s easy to get caught up in the flow.

Thanks, but I’ll feel better on Nov 4.
Assuming he actually accepts the outcome.

Newsweek – 3 Jul 20

How Trump Could Lose the Election—And Still Remain President

It's possible only a "people's firewall" can prevent President Donald Trump from bringing "The Plot Against America" to life.

WuWei · 2020-07-06T14:38:59.699Z

kermode:

WuWei:

I don’t think you are. It’s easy to get caught up in the flow.

Thanks, but I’ll feel better on Nov 4.
Assuming he actually accepts the outcome.
https://www.newsweek.com/how-trump-could-lose-election-still-remain-president-opinion-1513975

He’ll accept the win.

Ben_Natuf · 2020-07-06T14:52:23.669Z

NuffSaid:

Proof of this?

Bernie Sanders

What do you think the Trump dossier was? Russian fake intelligence sold to democrats to harm Trump. It is actually the only provable collusion between Russia and a political candidate/party in the 2016 election.

Ben_Natuf · 2020-07-06T14:54:24.521Z

kermode:

Assuming he actually accepts the outcome.

as if democrats have? you guys are funny. Trump will accept the phone call from Biden congratulating him on his reelection.