NYC nitwits get what they deserve: Newly elected DA, Alvin Bragg, will stop most criminal prosecutions

Here is exactly what Bragg’s new policy states:

a) An act that could be charged under PL §§ 160.15 (2, 3, or 4), 160.10(2b), or 160.05 that occurs in a commercial setting should be charged under PL § 155.25 if the force or threat of force consists of displaying a dangerous instrument or similar behavior but does not create a genuine risk of physical harm.

Now, note that PL § 155.25 is Petit larceny and is a class A misdemeanor for which a Desk Appearance Ticket is issued, and the perp is out and about in a few hours.

Also note that PL §§ 160.15 (2, 3, or 4) and 160.10(2b), or 160.05 are felonies.

JWK

Well if you look at it, the downgrade only applies to circumstances where the weapon was not used in anyway that could be a threat.

I personally think that it is a silly standard… but it doesn’t mean that armed robbers are only going to get desk appearances.

As I have said… it is more than okay to disagree with the policy change.

There is no need to make ■■■■ up to so though.

The New York Post article is wrong.

Read the memo for yourself.

You will see why.

And I suppose, according to you, the NYCPBA is also disseminating false information?

See: NYC PBA - Manhattan DA to stop seeking prison sentences in slew of criminal cases

Bragg’s memo also detailed the following instructions for prosecutors to reduce charges filed by cops in various cases:

Armed robbers who use guns or other deadly weapons to stick up stores and other businesses will be prosecuted only for petty larceny, a misdemeanor, provided no victims were seriously injured and there’s no “genuine risk of physical harm” to anyone. Armed robbery, a class B felony, would typically be punishable by a maximum of 25 years in prison, while petty larceny subjects offenders to up to 364 days in jail and a $1,000 fine.

Convicted criminals caught with weapons other than guns will have those felony charges downgraded to misdemeanors unless they’re also charged with more serious offenses. Criminal possession of a weapon in the third degree, a class D felony, is punishable by up to 7 years behind bars.

*Burglars who steal from residential storage areas, parts of homes that aren’t “accessible to a living area” and businesses located in mixed-use buildings will be prosecuted for a low-level class D felony that only covers break-ins instead of for more serious crimes. Those more serious crimes, class B and class C felonies, would be punishable by up to 25 and up to 15 years in prison respectively. *

Drug dealers believed to be “acting as a low-level agent of a seller” will be prosecuted only for misdemeanor possession. Also, suspected dealers will only be prosecuted on felony charges if they’re also accused of more serious crimes or are actually caught in the act of selling drugs. That felony would mean facing up to seven years behind bars.

Yup. According to you everyone is wrong except you.

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JWK

Today’s Democrat Party Leadership is infested with Socialist Revolutionaries, the same kind that took over Cuba and now rule over the people with an iron fist!

Yeah. They are. I don’t trust them as far as I can Throw them.

Read the memo for yourself.

Burglary is still a felony.

How can one place a weapons charge on top of a Burglary charge without the Burglary charge?

I’m not trying to make anything up… it can either be read that the burglary charge itself will be downgraded along with the weapons charge - which is how I read it - since that would make sense if they’re trying to reduce the impact on first time offenders. It’s just stupid to only downgrade one charge on a multiple charge situation, when the other is a felony.

And I suppose, according to you, the City Journal is also lying and putting out false information?

“Bragg’s policies for major crimes will have even more serious consequences. Bragg has directed that armed robberies of businesses no longer be charged as robberies, but only as larcenies. If a gun-wielding robber gets away with less than $1,000, which is typically the case in a store robbery, the defendant will be charged solely with petty larceny, a misdemeanor”.

Yup. According to you everyone is wrong except you.

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The burglary charge is downgraded from a class C to a Class D

The weapons charge downgrade is dependent on if the weapon was never used in a way that could be perceived in causing harm.

So… violent offenders with weapons will remain at the historic rates of being charged.

Non violent offenders will still face felony burglary charges but the weapons charge will be a misdemeanor, not an additional felony.

Stop reading opinion pieces and read the damn memo for yourself.

We have been talking about armed robbery

Which will still carry a felony burglary charge.

a) An act that could be charged under PL §§ 160.15 (2, 3, or 4), 160.10(2b), or 160.05 that occurs in a commercial setting should be charged under PL § 155.25 if the force or threat of force consists of displaying a dangerous instrument or similar behavior but does not create a genuine risk of physical harm.

Felony Robbery [ PL §§ 160.15 (2, 3, or 4), 160.10(2b) ] will be charged as Petit Larceny [ PL § 155.25] if the force or threat of force consists of displaying a dangerous instrument or similar behavior but does not create a genuine risk of physical harm.

Why are you being so obtuse? Are you just trolling the thread?

JWK

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And keep reading the Memo about the charges for burglary.

Then explain to me how one can be charged with the use of a weapon in commission of a burglary and not be charged with burglary

The article was written by Tom Hogan who has served as a federal prosecutor, local prosecutor, and elected district attorney.

Any you are telling us he is lying or making something up?

JWK

Please explain to me how one can get a weapon charge for committing a burglary without being charged for committing a burglary

By having the criminal act reduced to Petit Larceny [ PL § 155.25 ] as stated in the memo, i.e.:

“…if the force or threat of force consists of displaying a dangerous instrument or similar behavior but does not create a genuine risk of physical harm” it is then reduced to Petit Larceny as per the memo.

The criminal act that is being reduced to a misdemeanor is the weapons charge only if the weapon was not used in any way that could have caused harm.

The act of burglary is still a felony.

So once again.

How does one make the change that a weapon was used in the commission of a burglary and not make the burglary charge?

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Sure man.

The dude who posts the same pictures over and over is accusing others of trolling.

Kudos.

Go forth and live in the misunderstanding

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You are reading the memo correctly. See NYC PBA - Manhattan DA to stop seeking prison sentences in slew of criminal cases

“Bragg’s memo also detailed the following instructions for prosecutors to reduce charges filed by cops in various cases:”

Armed robbers who use guns or other deadly weapons to stick up stores and other businesses will be prosecuted only for petty larceny, a misdemeanor, provided no victims were seriously injured and there’s no “genuine risk of physical harm” to anyone. Armed robbery, a class B felony, would typically be punishable by a maximum of 25 years in prison, while petty larceny subjects offenders to up to 364 days in jail and a $1,000 fine.

Convicted criminals caught with weapons other than guns will have those felony charges downgraded to misdemeanors unless they’re also charged with more serious offenses. Criminal possession of a weapon in the third degree, a class D felony, is punishable by up to 7 years behind bars.

Burglars who steal from residential storage areas, parts of homes that aren’t “accessible to a living area” and businesses located in mixed-use buildings will be prosecuted for a low-level class D felony that only covers break-ins instead of for more serious crimes. Those more serious crimes, class B and class C felonies, would be punishable by up to 25 and up to 15 years in prison respectively.

Drug dealers believed to be “acting as a low-level agent of a seller” will be prosecuted only for misdemeanor possession. Also, suspected dealers will only be prosecuted on felony charges if they’re also accused of more serious crimes or are actually caught in the act of selling drugs. That felony would mean facing up to seven years behind bars.