Nunes aims to put intelligence source at risk

MarkyS · 2018-05-09T07:40:45.940Z

sikofit:

Republicans in particular seem to suffer from a sever case of multiple personality syndrome with respect to the intel community.

You were a traitor if you questioned the credibility of intelligence that led us to Iraq. Now they are the deep state incapable of being trusted when anything negative about Trump comes out

In the interim we had an administration that proved they were interested in politicizing the agencies under its control. We saw first the IRS turned into a political arm of the DNC and a cudgel against any political opposition. That was the first sign.

Since then we have seen evidence that the DOJ and the FBI were also politicized by the Obama administration. You want to pretend we have no reason to alter our perception of the agencies but we have it.

The left, on the other hand, can see the actual misuse of the agencies and they pretend to be blind.

M

WildRose · 2018-05-09T07:41:03.896Z

That’s embarrassingly weak even for you.

You made a baseless, ridiculous, factually bereft claim and I called you on it properly.

The FBI has been lying to us for so long about the redactions and reasons for same there is absolutely no reason to believe they’ve suddenly started telling the truth.

Put it before a neutral judge, redact what must be and put the rest out for the public to see.

Plasmaball · 2018-05-09T10:00:46.224Z

So stop engaging you in the Nunes memo that you brought up because its somehow not related to the topic unless you bring it up…

That’s something

dantes · 2018-05-09T12:57:11.312Z

Could you please cite your sources.

Godinez · 2018-05-09T13:01:01.789Z

That’s about it.

Godinez · 2018-05-09T13:02:52.939Z

Your willingness to put down and reject our own institutions is quite sad.

sikofit · 2018-05-09T15:14:24.067Z

Godinez:

Your willingness to put down and reject our own institutions is quite sad.

Rose is “Trump’s harshest critic”. Just ask him

bluedogdem · 2018-05-09T17:05:40.638Z

sikofit:

Godinez:

Your willingness to put down and reject our own institutions is quite sad.

Rose is “Trump’s harshest critic”. Just ask him

this made me laugh out loud at work…lolol

Roxiebelle · 2018-05-09T17:24:13.554Z

WuWei:

Did we learn nothing from Cheney outing the NOC?

Obviously some didn’t learn anything since Cheney or his COS Scooter Libby had anything to do with it. It was Colin Powell’s deputy Richard Armitage who exposed Valarie Plame and its a shameful example of liberal Democrat miscarriage of justice and even worse is that Colin Powell knew it all along and said nothing and let Libby be indicted and convicted by a mislead Jury…SHAMEFUL!!

MarkyS · 2018-05-10T05:45:50.392Z

Read my posts and stop pretending that you do not understand.

M

MarkyS · 2018-05-10T05:46:38.342Z

dantes:

Could you please cite your sources.

My sources for what?

M

WildRose · 2018-05-10T06:04:32.728Z

Not the institutions as a whole, but those who run them.

They are no different from your local police or prosecutor’s office or even the courthouse. Their first sense is always to protect each other and the system so people don’t lose faith in them.

It is very much a tribal “Us against them” attitude on their part.

The FBI and DOJ have for decades fought like hell against any sort of oversight or transparency in their operations.

dantes · 2018-05-10T11:41:11.101Z

The source for your allegation:

They spoke of sources and methods with the White House and with the Speaker of the House They lied.

What is your source that says they spoke of sources and methods with the White House and Speaker?

MarkyS · 2018-05-13T02:46:36.624Z

Again, just google Nunes memo and sources and methods. You will find SEVERAL stories that talk about this, what was said and what was actually there.

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madasheck · 2018-05-13T06:14:11.618Z

You mean the same Nunes memo the credibility of which has been stampeded over? And that’s not just me saying that … here’s an op-ed from Red State. Mark this on your calendar: This is one of the few times I’m linking to right-wing media. And there are many others, too, from mainstream publications. In other words, experts said the Nunes memo was a sham. Bada-boom.

redstate.com

A Significant Inaccuracy in #TheMemo Calls Its Credibility Into Question

If you can't even get the *public* facts right...

FloridaYankee · 2018-05-13T09:28:47.242Z

Roxiebelle:

WuWei:

Did we learn nothing from Cheney outing the NOC?

Obviously some didn’t learn anything since Cheney or his COS Scooter Libby had anything to do with it. It was Colin Powell’s deputy Richard Armitage who exposed Valarie Plame and its a shameful example of liberal Democrat miscarriage of justice and even worse is that Colin Powell knew it all along and said nothing and let Libby be indicted and convicted by a mislead Jury…SHAMEFUL!!

How was the jury misled?

WildRose · 2018-05-13T11:15:49.459Z

Libby didn’t out anybody.

Smyrna · 2018-05-13T11:30:31.536Z

This information should be sent to a third party judge to decide whether or not this actually risks the life of an informant or is an embarrassment to the Department of Justice? I don’t take them at their word and if the shoe was on the other foot, you wouldn’t either.

madasheck · 2018-05-13T13:20:29.767Z

WildRose:

Libby didn’t out anybody.

I’m afraid you’re dead wrong. He outed Valerie Plame. Read here…

Fortune

Who Is Scooter Libby? What to Know About Dick Cheney's Former Advisor Who...

This is the third pardon of Trump's presidency

MarkyS · 2018-05-13T22:04:21.707Z

You - and the Never-Trumpers at Red State - conveniently miss the fact that the committee also asked Andrew McCabe LAST YEAR what part of the dossier HAS BEEN verified and he said the only thing is that Carter Page did indeed fly to Russia.

unian.net

Embattled FBI admits it can't verify dossier claims of Russia, Trump campaign...

The FBI is declining to repudiate the Russia dossier on which it partially relied to start an investigation into the Trump campaign, but it concedes the document's major core charges of election collusion remain unsubstantiated, according to The...

And THAT is the reason that Nunes characterized the memo as unverified. He KNOWS that it is still unverified - according to the FBI itself.

M