Nothing to see here folks. I am sure they are bluffing (Taiwan)

Optrader · 2022-06-13T13:13:36.964Z

Auto129:

JayJay:

What we have to do is understand the post-World War II world order is finished and the post Cold War world order is finished. US hegemony is coming to an end.

Is there any way to convince the electorate that this transition doesn’t necessarily lower their standard of living?

Not when their standard of living continues to decline.

Optrader · 2022-06-13T13:16:04.355Z

JayJay:

Gaius:

You lost me with hegemony.

Blatantly false anti-American claims are generally not made by people making an honest mistake.

You don’t think the US is a military and economic hegemon?

Of course they are (albeit a fading one) and it is most assuredly not an anti-American sentiment to recognize this truth.

It’s not Anti American to recognize it, it’s Anti American to cheer it on and work for its demise.

JayJay · 2022-06-13T13:26:23.728Z

Precisely the opposite

Military and economic hegemony is unsustainable.

To root for it to continue is to root against American interests.

If we don’t work to transition away from it…it will be done for us. We won’t like how that happens.

Conservative_frk · 2022-06-13T13:31:54.250Z

I was reading that China has been buying up our farmland. China also owns more residential real estate than any other foreign country at 25% of total foreign investment.

BraveGear · 2022-06-13T13:46:06.526Z

“You Will Own Nothing and Be Happy,” Klaus Schwab

Optrader · 2022-06-13T13:58:40.056Z

JayJay:

Precisely the opposite

Military and economic hegemony is unsustainable.

To root for it to continue is to root against American interests.

If we don’t work to transition away from it…it will be done for us. We won’t like how that happens.

Somebody’s got to be the big dog. Teddy Roosevelt said speak softly and carry a big stick. The problem is people who don’t believe that their truly are evil people in the world who would simply take that big stick away and beat us to death with it, and we would like that far less. Seriously, how many dictators have to arise in the world to get people to understand the truth of this?

It is not arrogance, as Obama apologized for, to recognize our position of strength and leadership in the world.

Auto129 · 2022-06-13T14:57:05.809Z

If that ever becomes a big enough problem to hurt domestic supplies, there are political solutions.

NPR

Canada's answer to a hot housing market: ban foreign buyers for 2 years

Canada's budget also includes billions for new housing and measures to help Canadians trying to get into the market.

The government announced a two-year ban on foreign home buying as well as higher taxes for people who sell their home within a year, though both measures include multiple exceptions including for permanent residents and foreign students.

WuWei · 2022-06-13T17:13:54.490Z

Auto129:

JayJay:

What we have to do is understand the post-World War II world order is finished and the post Cold War world order is finished. US hegemony is coming to an end.

Is there any way to convince the electorate that this transition doesn’t necessarily lower their standard of living?

By not lowering their standard of living.

WuWei · 2022-06-13T17:15:19.765Z

JayJay:

Precisely the opposite

Military and economic hegemony is unsustainable.

To root for it to continue is to root against American interests.

If we don’t work to transition away from it…it will be done for us. We won’t like how that happens.

To contribute to it before it’s ready is immiseration.

WuWei · 2022-06-13T17:15:34.432Z

Decouple.

JayJay · 2022-06-13T17:49:30.685Z

WuWei:

JayJay:

Precisely the opposite

Military and economic hegemony is unsustainable.

To root for it to continue is to root against American interests.

If we don’t work to transition away from it…it will be done for us. We won’t like how that happens.

To contribute to it before it’s ready is immiseration.

The immiseration happens by holding on too long.

Auto129 · 2022-06-13T18:36:44.224Z

Is it that simple if Iran starts acting up? Can the electorate watch them clown around their neighborhood without getting itchy for war?

WuWei · 2022-06-13T18:39:53.864Z

JayJay:

WuWei:

JayJay:

Precisely the opposite

Military and economic hegemony is unsustainable.

To root for it to continue is to root against American interests.

If we don’t work to transition away from it…it will be done for us. We won’t like how that happens.

To contribute to it before it’s ready is immiseration.

The immiseration happens by holding on too long.

Orrrr, by burying it too soon.

WuWei · 2022-06-13T18:40:27.132Z

Auto129:

Is it that simple if Iran starts acting up? Can the electorate watch them clown around their neighborhood without getting itchy for war?

Iran has nothing to do with us.

TheRedComet · 2022-06-13T19:50:14.004Z

We are returning to a pre World War I world.

Policy makers would be wise to study that period heavily so we don’t make the same mistakes they did and destroy an entire generation in the process.

Samm · 2022-06-13T21:45:21.946Z

Gaius:

Ben_Natuf:

chinas navy has no chance againt ours and niether does their airforce. their advantage is in numbers of personell. they know that. why would they engage us on our terms? thinking they would is naive. if the war stayed conventional it would not be just against china, but china and russia. it obviously won’t be russian troops europe has to worry about. in a conventional war the eu could conquer russia tomorrow. if it stayed conventional, the only chance we would have is to establish complete air and sea superiority early in the conflict. and that pretty much gaurantees, it won’t stay conventional.

China would look to use its navy to block the malacca strait, to impede energy shipments into Taiwan, Japan, s Korea, and the Phil., to stop trans pacific shipping. to render the Panama canal useless to us.

It’s kinds of an open secret.

Yeah, but it’s not like you have to sail all around the southern end of a large continent to bypass the Malacca Strait.

Ben_Natuf · 2022-06-13T22:17:57.181Z

and they would fail miserably

JayJay · 2022-06-13T23:25:47.791Z

I know.

It takes a special kind of leadership to know when to transition.

Which is why empires usually fall instead of soft land.

WuWei · 2022-06-13T23:59:17.689Z

If it dies, it dies. You don’t murder it.

e7alr · 2022-06-14T02:53:08.099Z

It is the economic hegemony that fueled the out sized (compared to the majority of the rest of the world) standard of living.