What do The AOC’s/Xi’s/Biden’s of the world represent, then?

It comes down to whether it is wise to fight a war for allies (NATO) who are not willing to pitch in themselves.

I think you are actually pointing out that many different people who consider themselves conservatives do not March in lockstep to some Talkingpoints website.

It never was.

Iraq was not “wrong” and you know it.

The EU will never confront China until it is too late.

Canada? :rofl:

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I don’t know why we still talk in terms of conservative or liberal. There are so many self-declared conservatives and self-declared liberals that are nothing alike.

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In America? You betcha.

Ukraine is neither NATO nor an ally.

I don’t believe in Fortress America. America First leads to America Alone and that is a raw deal.

I do believe in ending US Hegemony…willingly ending it.

Because it’s not sustainable and not in our best interests and involves us in conflicts we shouldn’t be involved in.

Burden shifting to allies who are more than capable of doing it.

I couldn’t agree more. Collectivists and Individualists is much more accurate.

Balderdash. Now if you had said “could”, you had me.

It’s over, we just need to admit it and figure where to go from where we are.

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The way many of its proponents are framing it?

My statement is more accurate.

As for Hegemony it’s under attack but not quite dead yet…but it will be…on terms very unfavorable to us…unless we change our strategy on our own terms.

Agree this was better done a long time ago.

Not everyone shares your POV.

No Jay. You worse cased it for your agenda. I agree there are some risks to be managed, but it is nowhere near inevitable.

The hegemony you speak of is dead and has been for a while.

Hindsight bias. “A long time ago” is easy to say looking back.

There’s a bunch of war mongering bastards in those country. FNC seems to be leading the charge.

I wish there was a peacenik site.

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I know, Karenism is liable to ruin us all.

I want to see how the Fortress America people deal with the problem of capitalism and global markets.

Capitalism is not a problem.

How about this?

peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations—entangling alliances with none.

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P-Anon. Extremism. Argumentum ad Absurdum.