North and LaPierre in struggle for control of the NRA

Plasmaball · 2019-04-27T16:17:51.754Z

With semi autos

FloridaYankee · 2019-04-27T16:25:41.913Z

PBS gets revenue from advertisers too but they call them sponsors. Not defending NRA per se’, but there seems to be some leeway in that area.

tnt · 2019-04-27T16:39:16.504Z

Wasn’t North involved in a veteran’s group dust-up with our host a bunch of years back?

Munimula1 · 2019-04-27T17:30:02.324Z

Hard to know who to root for in this dispute.

Munimula1 · 2019-04-27T17:31:17.380Z

I do know ON was a highly protected person on this forum years ago. Many instapermabans were issued due to him. I wonder if that’s still the case?

Munimula1 · 2019-04-27T17:34:32.328Z

Is it true that guns are not allowed at the NRA convention?

MoleUK · 2019-04-27T19:31:14.192Z

WuWei:

What do you guys think is going to happen here? Do you think the NRA is going to disappear?

If it loses tax exempt status it’s not exactly going to be in good shape for a while.

The looters will be fine though.

The Trace – 17 Apr 19

Secrecy, Self-Dealing, and Greed at the NRA

The organization’s leadership is focused on external threats, but the real crisis is of its own making.

“Marc Owens, who served for 10 years as the head of the Internal Revenue Service division that oversees tax-exempt enterprises, recently reviewed these records. “The litany of red flags is just extraordinary,” he said. “The materials reflect one of the broadest arrays of likely transgressions that I’ve ever seen. There is a tremendous range of what appears to be the misuse of assets for the benefit of certain vendors and people in control.” Owens added, “Those facts, if confirmed, could lead to the revocation of the NRA’s tax-exempt status” — without which the organization could likely not survive.”

MoleUK · 2019-04-27T19:36:10.639Z

It has genuinely amazed me over the past 10 years to see the level of graft and hucksterism that exists within the American conservative political movement.

This is just more of the same.

Samm · 2019-04-27T20:43:36.154Z

BlueTex:

WuWei:

What do you guys think is going to happen here? Do you think the NRA is going to disappear?

I think the NRA is going to face an investigation from the AG of the state of New York, they are, after all, a New York corporation. The IRS will likely be investigating as well.

The NRA is going to be around a lot longer than Coumo.

Steel-W0LF · 2019-04-27T20:45:05.881Z

Munimula1:

Is it true that guns are not allowed at the NRA convention?

Yes and no.

It’s venue specific. Some years they hold it at convention centers that do want guns inside and they honor the property owners requirements. Other years it’s held at places that don’t have that rule.

So whether they allow them or not isn’t a function of the nra. It’s a function of where it’s being held.

BlueTex · 2019-04-27T21:07:25.049Z

Samm:

The NRA is going to be around a lot longer than Coumo.

Cuomo is not the AG of New York…

AG James sent a preservation letter to the NRA on Friday…

nytimes.com – 27 Apr 19

N.R.A. President to Step Down as New York Attorney General Investigates...

Oliver L. North announced that he would not serve a second term as the N.R.A. deals with bitter infighting and a new inquiry into its tax-exempt status.

Samm · 2019-04-27T21:21:27.063Z

The war is Coumo’s war, not the AG’s. But since you want to nitpick, the NRA will also be around a lot longer than the current AG.

BlueTex · 2019-04-27T22:53:00.221Z

Samm:

The war is Coumo’s war, not the AG’s. But since you want to nitpick, the NRA will also be around a lot longer than the current AG.

The AG ran on investigating the NRA… They have made it very easy for her… Cuomo’s war is another front somewhat related but separate from AG James battle… If even half the self-dealing alleged turns out to be true, the fines and revocation of their non-profit status will have a lasting impact…

Samm · 2019-04-27T23:32:24.727Z

As I said, the NRA will be around a lot longer than the current AG.

Ex-Pat · 2019-04-27T23:43:39.541Z

The NRA’s biggest problem is that they have won so much in recent years. Guns are everywhere in the US and almost every attempt to have gun control has failed. Now with Trump in office, what’s the point of giving them your support? Second Amendment activists have pretty much gotten their way at every point.

WuWei · 2019-04-28T02:51:00.781Z

Ex-Pat:

Second Amendment activists

strange turn of phrase. I think I like it. I’m a Bill of Rights activist.

FloridaYankee · 2019-04-28T02:59:27.006Z

I’m a vegetable rights activist.

kermode · 2019-04-28T03:12:15.305Z

Green Lives Matter!

Ex-Pat · 2019-04-28T03:30:19.329Z

Maybe I should have said “gun freaks.”

WuWei · 2019-04-28T03:32:10.357Z

Ex-Pat:

Maybe I should have said “gun freaks.”

Or “Constitutionalists”
“Americans”
“Citizens”
“Men”