No Quarter for Joe or the Democrats

Borgia_dude · 2020-11-09T01:17:00.829Z

Blackwolf:

Ceasar:

Maybe Trump will start one, perhaps a news network. The left thinks he will go away…they don’t know what they are inviting.

He is certainly welcome to compete in the free market. There’s no more violation of the 1st Amendment in online/social media than there is in AM radio.

I called into Hannity once, made it on the air and he cut me off. Hannity violated my 1st Amendment Rights!

Eagle-Keeper · 2020-11-09T01:21:06.427Z

JayJay:

The rich will continue to get richer while the poor call each other names and fight over crumbs.

Yes liberal politicians have gotten very very rich over the past few decades. If we are all lucky maybe crumbs will trickle down from their wealthy tables.

WuWei · 2020-11-09T01:21:54.230Z

hwyflier:

I used to get my water from a private water company. They owned the mineral rights beneath my feet so I couldn’t dig a well, and their piped their horrible water in at rip off cost and awful quality. That’s a monopoly. Texas said it was fine though so I moved.

I don’t need facebook for anything. Anything that can be done on facebook is something that everyone can do somewhere else. Look at the kids, they don’t even care about Facebook, might as well be the town bingo hall to them.

Where in Texas did this happen?

hwyflier · 2020-11-09T01:40:28.200Z

WuWei:

Where in Texas did this happen?

What’s your doubt sneaky?

The Columbus Dispatch

Deregulation didn't provide anticipated savings

More than a decade after Ohio deregulated its electricity industry, the utilities that were most expensive have gotten cheaper and the cheapest have gotten much more expensive.

WuWei · 2020-11-09T01:44:15.582Z

That “mineral rights” had anything to do with it.

It was inside town. Makes sense now.

hwyflier · 2020-11-09T01:45:18.841Z

WuWei:

It was inside town. Makes sense now.

Sure wasn’t. Unincorporated part of the county.

WuWei · 2020-11-09T01:46:26.315Z

hwyflier:

WuWei:

It was inside town. Makes sense now.

Sure wasn’t. Unincorporated part of the county.

Ok, if you say so.

hwyflier · 2020-11-09T01:47:09.810Z

WuWei:

Ok, if you say so.

Damn right.

madasheck · 2020-11-09T01:57:29.763Z

markdido:

madasheck:

zantax:

mollyBrown:

zantax:

wonderingrover:

I’m sure Biden will be heartbroken

No, he’ll be giddy, he loves division, watch him cackle when the ACA was signed.

You think he was cackling because he was upsetting the Cons? Versus him passing a lifelong dream? Very self centered if you do.

Why he was cackling is beside the point, he knew it was a very divisive piece of legislation and that half the country abhorred it. It wasn’t appropriate to be gleeful about it.

I guess then all political celebrations are wrong? Because, gee, someone’s going to be angry about everything that happens politically.

Biden supporters attack Trump effigies in packed rallies - TheBlaze

That one-time example means nothing and wasn’t the point of what I said. I was speaking sarcastically. I celebrated Biden yesterday. I am celebrating today. And I will celebrate tomorrow. If it pisses anyone off, too damn bad.

markdido · 2020-11-09T02:52:15.975Z

madasheck:

markdido:

madasheck:

zantax:

mollyBrown:

zantax:

wonderingrover:

I’m sure Biden will be heartbroken

No, he’ll be giddy, he loves division, watch him cackle when the ACA was signed.

You think he was cackling because he was upsetting the Cons? Versus him passing a lifelong dream? Very self centered if you do.

Why he was cackling is beside the point, he knew it was a very divisive piece of legislation and that half the country abhorred it. It wasn’t appropriate to be gleeful about it.

I guess then all political celebrations are wrong? Because, gee, someone’s going to be angry about everything that happens politically.

Biden supporters attack Trump effigies in packed rallies - TheBlaze

That one-time example means nothing and wasn’t the point of what I said. I was speaking sarcastically. I celebrated Biden yesterday. I am celebrating today. And I will celebrate tomorrow. If it pisses anyone off, too damn bad.

Means nothing?

This is Biden’s base.

Hundreds and hundreds of them.

One time example? Hardly.

Mail Online

Protesters beat hanging Donald Trump effigy in Salt Lake City | Daily Mail...

Protesters beat a hanging Donald Trump effigy in Salt Lake City.

Blackwolf · 2020-11-09T03:52:47.470Z

Looks like some lone wolves are taking this sentiment to an extreme:

NBC News

Arkansas police chief resigns after appearing to call for violence over election

"Never let them forget they are traitors and have no right to live in this Republic after what they have done," one message said.

zantax · 2020-11-09T04:11:18.490Z

Blackwolf:

zantax:

It does however have to do with free speech and fairness.

Are you suggesting the government get more involved in the free market related to media? Maybe a doctrine of some sort, related to fairness?

Nope, simple principle that doesn’t require much government interference, no bans or deplatforming because tech companies don’t like the content of otherwise legal speech. That is fair to all sides. Think of it as net neutrality for social media. Or, a prohibition against not baking gay wedding cakes.

Blackwolf · 2020-11-09T04:16:56.695Z

This is intriguing - demanding entities allow for all speech (so long as its legal) on their private platforms.

zantax · 2020-11-09T04:18:54.925Z

Blackwolf:

This is intriguing - demanding entities allow for all speech (so long as its legal) on their private platforms.

Only if said entities put themselves out there as a platform for user speech, obviously not applicable to publishers as opposed to platforms. To use the baker analogy, if you only do cakes by special order or commission as opposed to being open to sell to the general public. Once you open to the general public, you lose the right to discriminate. Heck, we force cable companies to host public access channels and prohibit them from excluding people based on their content of otherwise legal speech.

Blackwolf · 2020-11-09T04:23:07.431Z

Does that stipulation include online privately owned political forums?

zantax · 2020-11-09T04:23:45.718Z

Blackwolf:

Does that stipulation include online privately owned political forums?

If open to the general public and advertised as such. No skin off my nose if this site was prohibited from banning people for otherwise legal speech. I believe in free speech.

Blackwolf · 2020-11-09T04:25:30.360Z

Thank you, most interesting.

zantax · 2020-11-09T04:33:20.710Z

Check out Marsh V Alabama sometime. Public function test. Applicable in my view.

zantax · 2020-11-09T04:38:09.102Z

This one as well

From https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R45650.pdf

In a 2001 case, the Supreme Court held that a state athletic association, while “nominally private,” should be subject to First Amendment standards because of “the pervasive entwinement of public institutions and public officials in its composition and workings.”62

Sounds like twitter to me.

fallenturtle · 2020-11-09T07:08:05.212Z

zantax:

fallenturtle:

Ceasar:

JayJay:

Blackwolf:

fallenturtle:

What facts? Where is the left trying to remove your 1st amendment rights. Provide examples.

Has the CEC been silenced by the government over the last 10 days and I missed it?

I stand amazed every day that the conservative narrative dominates our political discourse yet conservatives cry “censorship”.

REALLY?

I guess you haven’t noticed ONLY the right gets shadow banned, out right banned, flagged, & shut down on many forums.

Naw, it didn’t happen, huh?

Pffffffffffffffft!

Which has nothing to do with the 1st Amendment.

It does however have to do with free speech and fairness.

You want a Fairness Doctrine for social media websites?