I see what you did there. Just willy nilly exclude set of data to make trump look good.

i exclude nothing, the facts, data and quote are directly from the source. not the spin attempted by you

Definition of Sans:
without.

Synonym of Without:
Excluding

If you exclude the 5 million dollars in credit card debt I added last year I actually made 2 million dollars :rofl:

Trumpy logic is hilarious.

obama care is not a subsidy for emplpyers, they don’t owe you insurance. nor the money to pay for it

Yes it is, companies that do provide insurance are at a competitive disadvantage. Obviously they dont when the government is going to pay for it.

complete ■■■■■■■■■ companies provide it because they choose to, if it disadvantages them its their own doing. not to mention, it doesn’t. tey get better workers which is an advantage. your argument is garbage, one of the most stupid things i’ve ever read

I’ve offered the equivalent of what I pay for insurance in the employees wages. The understanding being they would be able to find a plan that works best for them.

Guess what? None of them bought insurance and couldn’t afford to pay for a doctor visit when they got sick :woman_shrugging:

As far as wages go, when we have this much inflation $15.00 an hour doesn’t go very far.

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They’re offering 15 an hour just about everywhere by me now. Even at the car wash.

I think if you stay away from cigarettes and alcohol, live relatively close to your job to avoid tolls and a high gas bill, a couple making 15 an hour each could get by around me. You could probably even have a cat. Just don’t have any kids or it will become problematic.