No need for federal minimum wage

[Paul_Do]

“Documented statistics”
This is what documented statistics look like.

Public Welfare Expenditures

You are throwing out cherry picked nonsense to push an agenda. Welfare expenditure skyrocketed under trump and has been on an obvious trend since 1980s

[Ben_Natuf]

maybe you should go back to the masters to see if they have better lies for you.

R46214.pdf

[Paul_Do]

@Ben_Natuf

maybe you should go back to the masters to see if they have better lies for you.

https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R46214.pdf

Are you for real? What you linked is just more info backing my point. It is the same data I already provided in different form.

The ■■■■ is going on. Are you trying to say the data you just linked is also incorrect or did you just not even look at it?

How do you tell me to “get better lies” then link data that proves what I already said.

Do you just not bother to read your own stats and just hope they line up with what you are saying or something?

[Ben_Natuf]

learn to read data.

sans obamacare, federal spending on wefare programs decreased every year of trumps presidency until covid

since FY2012 the increase is attributable to higher spending on health care. Spending on all other programs (collectively) has decreased each year since FY2016. M

get better lies

R46214.pdf

[Tom_Ch]

@Ben_Natuf

learn to read data.

sans obamacare, federal spending on wefare programs decreased every year of trumps presidency until covid

since FY2012 the increase is attributable to higher spending on health care. Spending on all other programs (collectively) has decreased each year since FY2016. M

get better lies

https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R46214.pdf

I like to see data on this. Just because welfare programs spending decreased, did the need decreased also. Or is this a screw poor people and we’ll reduce it no matter what.

[Ben_Natuf]

lowest unemployment in all demographics in history. rising wages at the bottom. lowering of the income gap for the firt time in decades. steadily declining poverty rate.

there was less need

[SixFoot]

I must’ve been the only human being to ever live on $7/hr.

Not surprising though, I was the only Infaneer in the US Army to serve 6 years and 3 days without ever having stepped foot in a helicopter. lol

[Liberty323]

@zantax

@Liberty323

Right, that’s why I said “educated” people are acting accordingly. That leaves the ones who keep popping them out but shouldn’t be.

Doesn’t that make educated people fairly stupid as well? Allowing the country to be repopulated by the stupid, doesn’t seem real smart.

Without mandatory castrations and tube tying of the “undesirables” what do you suggest?

[peek-a-boo]

In 1971 I started at $6.50 an hour as a common laborer with absolutely no relevant skills. It was a union job paying grossly inflated wages. I was in college on summer break and that money helped pay my tuition.

[peek-a-boo]

I see you are still pedalling your nonsense. No one is disputing the government is providing assistance to those in need. The pushback is with your absurd attempt to call that assistance a corporate subsidy.

[Tom_Ch]

@peek-a-boo

I see you are still pedalling your nonsense. No one is disputing the government is providing assistance to those in need. The pushback is with your absurd attempt to call that assistance a corporate subsidy.

why have the govt provide assistance if they are working for those companies? the companies should pay enough so govt doesn’t have to fill the gap.

[peek-a-boo]

@Tom_Ch

the companies should pay enough so govt doesn’t have to fill the gap.

The federal government isn’t filling in any gaps. That is LW spin on federal assistance by a small handful of LIBs.

[zantax]

@Liberty323

@zantax

@Liberty323

Right, that’s why I said “educated” people are acting accordingly. That leaves the ones who keep popping them out but shouldn’t be.

Doesn’t that make educated people fairly stupid as well? Allowing the country to be repopulated by the stupid, doesn’t seem real smart.

Without mandatory castrations and tube tying of the “undesirables” what do you suggest?

Not incentivizing it with government rewards would be a good start.

[Liberty323]

@zantax

@Liberty323

@zantax

@Liberty323

Right, that’s why I said “educated” people are acting accordingly. That leaves the ones who keep popping them out but shouldn’t be.

Doesn’t that make educated people fairly stupid as well? Allowing the country to be repopulated by the stupid, doesn’t seem real smart.

Without mandatory castrations and tube tying of the “undesirables” what do you suggest?

Not incentivizing it with government rewards would be a good start.

Oh absolutely! I’m all for ending the so-called War on Poverty. It has created millions of fatherless children.

[ResPrivita]

@zantax

Fundamental misunderstanding of how the labor market works. And it isn’t societies or governments fault if you don’t have a marketable skill, look in a mirror.

Fundamental?
Societies?
Mirror?
No comprendo… Lo siento…
Mas stimulus por favor…

[zantax]

@ResPrivita

@zantax

Fundamental misunderstanding of how the labor market works. And it isn’t societies or governments fault if you don’t have a marketable skill, look in a mirror.

Fundamental?
Societies?
Mirror?
No comprendo… Lo siento…
Mas stimulus por favor…

Yeah, no, I don’t play games. Not a child.

[ResPrivita]

@zantax

labor market works

Ok, no games, child like, or otherwise.
How do they, work?
Labor markets; sounds like, life, for sale, but…
Please explain…
I did so look into the mirror; as you did so request, and I did see what I saw.
I then grabbed that saw, used it to cut the mirror in half; and as is known, two halfs make a whole.
I then looked into the hole, and saw a labor market… I think…
You mean American labor market?
What is it?

[Paul_Do]

@Ben_Natuf

learn to read data.

sans obamacare, federal spending on wefare programs decreased every year of trumps presidency until covid

since FY2012 the increase is attributable to higher spending on health care. Spending on all other programs (collectively) has decreased each year since FY2016. M

get better lies

https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R46214.pdf

Again you are cherry picking one year,
And even the Low income subsidizes were at a much higher level than they were during the 2008 recession despite the supposed greatest economy ever. Look at the total level it increased, why try to divide healthcare into a separate category to obscure reality

[Paul_Do]

@Liberty323

@zantax

@Liberty323

@zantax

@Liberty323

Right, that’s why I said “educated” people are acting accordingly. That leaves the ones who keep popping them out but shouldn’t be.

Doesn’t that make educated people fairly stupid as well? Allowing the country to be repopulated by the stupid, doesn’t seem real smart.

Without mandatory castrations and tube tying of the “undesirables” what do you suggest?

Not incentivizing it with government rewards would be a good start.

Oh absolutely! I’m all for ending the so-called War on Poverty. It has created millions of fatherless children.

How many more would we create by banning abortion the added costs would be astronomical

[Ben_Natuf]

get better lies. i am cherry picking nothing. sans obamacare welfare spending went down every year after 2016 until covid.