No mask mandate no vaccine

SixFoot · 2020-11-13T22:03:22.472Z

hwyflier:

Samm:

Sounds like a policy from a vindictive tyrant.

17 minutes after this post trump seemingly did just that towards New York.

Hurr’ago

No vaccine for New York Politics

I just heard President Trump say that everyone was getting a vaccine but that New York doesn’t want it… I guess it is two months too soon… it will never be the biden vaccine

Samm · 2020-11-13T22:04:09.156Z

hwyflier:

Smyrna:

It was being addressed to the OP as to who…has the greater right to the vaccine. The logic I was using is that those who paid the most, should be first in line. That said, both reasons are stupid and I was hoping that was obvious?

I get your logic, its just that here’s the part that makes me wonder why with this logic you aren’t for govt care.

See, your tax dollars didn’t develop a vaccine, but if you think they did and that Pfizer didn’t build that, then who needs Pfizer?

So where did the $9 billion that the government gave to pharmaceutical companies to develop vaccines come from?

Smyrna · 2020-11-13T22:05:33.486Z

hwyflier:

See, your tax dollars didn’t develop a vaccine, but if you think they did and that Pfizer didn’t build that, then who needs Pfizer?

You think they did it for free? If not, who generated the funds used? Answer…taxpayers.

hwyflier · 2020-11-13T22:05:38.407Z

Samm:

So where did the $9 billion that the government gave to pharmaceutical companies to develop vaccines come from?

If we’re talking about the Pfzier vaccine they’re very high on letting eveyrone know they did it the good ol fashioned american way. On their own.

But if you guys want to argue for government healthcare to me i’m not against a good time.

FloridaYankee · 2020-11-13T22:06:20.319Z

Smyrna:

hwyflier:

You got a few things wrong here, but instead of correcting them, I’m wondering why if you think this you aren’t for 100% government ran healthcare.

It was being addressed to the OP as to who…has the greater right to the vaccine. The logic I was using is that those who paid the most, should be first in line. That said, both reasons are stupid and I was hoping that was obvious?

I wouldn’t have a problem with government healthcare but IMO the level of care would drop. Therefore what I’d ask is that the amount applied for healthcare could be a voucher issued and then those who are willing/capable of paying more, can apply it elsewhere, where in they’re opinion, the healthcare is more like what they have right now.

That’s what the ACA does. People who get subsidies are free to get a better health plan by chipping in some of their own money.

hwyflier · 2020-11-13T22:07:07.174Z

Smyrna:

You think they did it for free? If not, who generated the funds used? Answer…taxpayers.

Yahoo News

Pfizer CEO: Company refused taxpayer money for COVID-19 vaccine development...

Pfizer chose not to take U.S. taxpayer money to help fund its coronavirus vaccine development, a move that CBS News' Margaret Brennan pointed out on Sunday is a bit of a financial risk for the pharmaceutical giant.CEO Albert Bourla admitted that it...

Pfizer chose not to take U.S. taxpayer money to help fund its coronavirus vaccine development, a move that CBS News’ Margaret Brennan pointed out on Sunday is a bit of a financial risk for the pharmaceutical giant.

CEO Albert Bourla admitted that it will indeed “be painful” if the vaccine fails, but “at the end of the day it’s only money” and the lack of taxpayer funds won’t “break our company.”

WuWei · 2020-11-13T22:09:17.642Z

hwyflier:

So correct me if I’m wrong or did Trump just say he’s going to “deprioritize” the vaccine from blue states.

I didn’t hear that, but I missed part of it.

WuWei · 2020-11-13T22:11:17.533Z

hwyflier:

Samm:

Sounds like a policy from a vindictive tyrant.

17 minutes after this post trump seemingly did just that towards New York.

Bull ■■■■■ I heard the part about New York. That’s not what he said at all.

WuWei · 2020-11-13T22:12:03.252Z

hwyflier:

Wow, yep, I heard it alright:

“As soon as April, the vaccine will be ready to the entire population, with the exception of places like New York State…”

Post the rest of it.

Samm · 2020-11-13T22:12:14.283Z

hwyflier:

Samm:

So where did the $9 billion that the government gave to pharmaceutical companies to develop vaccines come from?

If we’re talking about the Pfzier vaccine they’re very high on letting eveyrone know they did it the good ol fashioned american way. On their own.

But if you guys want to argue for government healthcare to me i’m not against a good time.

Pfizer got $1.95 billion in government funding.

And we are not arguing about government healthcare … that is entirely your interjection.

hwyflier · 2020-11-13T22:12:15.422Z

actual transcription:

No mask mandate no vaccine Politics

Wow, yep, I heard it alright: “As soon as April, the vaccine will be ready to the entire population, with the exception of places like New York State…”

hwyflier · 2020-11-13T22:12:51.907Z

WuWei:

Post the rest of it.

How about you boss.

Smyrna · 2020-11-13T22:13:33.158Z

hwyflier:

If we’re talking about the Pfzier vaccine they’re very high on letting eveyrone know they did it the it the good ol fashioned american way. On their own.

But if you guys want to argue for government healthcare to me i’m not against a good time.

Newsweek – 11 Nov 20

Alex Azar Says Pfizer 'Very Much Part' of Operation Warp Speed

Trump administration officials and allies have tried to link Pfizer's claims that its coronavirus vaccine is 90 percent effective to Operation Warp Speed.

WuWei · 2020-11-13T22:13:54.371Z

Smyrna:

hwyflier:

“As soon as April, the vaccine will be ready to the entire population, with the exception of places like New York State…”

…but mainly Cuomo.

All Cuomo. And “we will send it to NY as soon as he tells us he’s going to use it.”

Smyrna · 2020-11-13T22:14:47.046Z

Newsweek – 11 Nov 20

Alex Azar Says Pfizer 'Very Much Part' of Operation Warp Speed

Trump administration officials and allies have tried to link Pfizer's claims that its coronavirus vaccine is 90 percent effective to Operation Warp Speed.

hwyflier · 2020-11-13T22:15:17.927Z

WuWei:

All Cuomo. And “we will send it to NY as soon as he tells us he’s going to use it.”

So personal politics. Cool?

WuWei · 2020-11-13T22:15:57.060Z

hwyflier:

WuWei:

Post the rest of it.

How about you boss.

I didn’t post half.

That is among the most blatantly dishonest things I have seen posted on this board in the almost 20 years I have been here from old timers.

You and @jezcoe should be ashamed of yourselves.

WuWei · 2020-11-13T22:16:24.343Z

hwyflier:

WuWei:

All Cuomo. And “we will send it to NY as soon as he tells us he’s going to use it.”

So personal politics. Cool?

Cuomo said he didn’t want it.

hwyflier · 2020-11-13T22:17:13.188Z

I gave you the CEO’s quote.

You’re giving me a politician’s.

When did this become freaky-friday?

late edit: oh ■■■■■ it actually is the 13th

hwyflier · 2020-11-13T22:18:46.221Z

WuWei:

Cuomo said he didn’t want it.

A few posts up you screamed BS and now here you are just rephrasing my exact point over and over.

I’ll take it.