No deserving high school student should be kept out of college because of the size of their family's bank account

There are academic and athletic scholarships galore available in the USA, it’s always nice to have another but it’s certainly not rare.

Any American regardless of race, color, creed or age can apply for Federal Pell Grants that allows for a free 2 year college education including books with some $$ left over for expenses.

Smart students participating in the Pell Grant program will save their money to pay for the ridiculously HIGH COST of getting that 4 year degree or keep their grades up & apply for the gazillion scholarships and other grants available.

NO ONE is being denied an education in the USA and its not the most urgent need of the country. How about if be build some “very affordable” housing for the homeless instead!

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The title is a paraphrase I heard on tv of what Bloomberg said in his editorial piece explaining why he is giving the money. I know he said qualified not deserving and there were other slight differences but the title captures the essence of it.

Apparently when admissions offices are looking at students to send acceptance letters to, one of the considerations they have is the student’s ability to pay. Bloomberg wanted to remove that consideration completely for his alma mater.

It’s a great idea but still a drop in the bucket. More states need to get on board with what New York State is trying to do.

Those with no brain are the bigger problem.

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Nope don’t remember.

The maximum Pellet grant is $6095 for 2018.

Athletic scholarships don’t fall out if tress. You have to be a really excellent athlete, in a sport that gives a lot of scholarships and only Div 1 and Div 2 schools award athletic scholarships.

It can be a boost in admission at Div 3 schools which get great institutional grant aid - if you are also have the grades and stats to attend.

Pell grants are deducted from the total FA package a school gives, it cannot be piggybacked. That is true of outside scholarships at most schools, also.

Yeah, people think their kid is a great athlete or has something else so special schools will throw money at them to attend, The reality is much different for most students.

I’m in NY and this is a great program. It’s having growing pains but that’ll get sorted. It also only covers tuition, not R&B (which is more than double the cost of tuition.)

It’s perfect for kids who commute to SUNY schools, or those who want to save some of the COA.

Good grief…

Why are you people unable to read the article that was posted in the OP?

The article clearly explains that colleges do decided whether or not they will accept a student based on their perception of whether or not the student can pay.

I’m sorry if you can’t read it for some reason, but if you can then you should try.

…and those who attempt to highlight their intelligence by discounting the intelligence of others, are typically the dumbest ones in the room.

Yeah, I agree completely. I hope they stick with it and work it out.

In New York as well. This would have been great in the 80’s, but Pell and Tap allowed me to attend.

Couldn’t agree more man.

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No matter what the amount is per year it’s still enough to get an Associates Degree that may take longer then two years, but it’s definitely possible. You can work full time and take online or classroom classes. So providing higher education in the USA is NOT as big an issue as liberal socialists proclaim. The Feds and States are doing PLENTY right now regarding higher education, its the brainwashing, malfeasance and incompetence in lower grades that hurts the country and teachers unions need to go!!

It’s more efficient if it’s given to an institution rather than to a bunch of people, but I can see what you’re saying…you can onlybtake advantage of it if you’re going to Johns Hopkins.

He could have set up an institution to manage disbursement so as to allow students who might not want to go to JH…but his money, his rules.

Congratulations on injecting ■■■■■■■■ partisan politics into a pretty good non-political discussion.

It’s not that simple.

The most elite schools (Top 25 universities/top 25 LAC’s) are almost all need blind. Admissions office doesn’t look at all at FA need.) After acceptance, FA office puts together aid package from FAFSA and CSS Profile.

The next tier of schools 25-50ish are need aware.

These schools generally accept most, but not all students who have need, and may not meet 100% of need, unlike the top tier schools. These schools will give out all their institutional aid until it’s gone and not give out as generous package as top schools. The aid packages will include student loans.

The rest of the 1000’s of schools give very little in institutional grant aid and FA package is all loans.

Schools ranked between 50 - 100 do give merit aid, which can cut costs significantly if you are in the top tier of students they accept. But merit aid isn’t guaranteed after your 1st. A student has to maintain a certain GPA to get it renewed.

Then there are the schools who accept students they know won’t sttend because they cannot afford it - to pad their acceptance stats.

These are non acceptance acceptances.

It’s extremely complicated and most people do not have any understanding of the intricacies of FA and paying for college.

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That’s bi-partisan, Smyrna and I are in complete agreement.

Oh… You support Trump behaving like that I guess. And thanks about the thread. It’s going about how I figured.

Excelsior makes up the difference after Pell and Tap are factored in for those who qualify for them.

For those who don’t qualify for either, Excelsior pays tuition in full.

Not simple but the overriding point stands. The President of Johns Hopkins was quoted in the article as saying it was difficult for them to keep their commitment to “need-blind” admissions.

Yeah, it amazes me how many people here seem to lose their minds if they think about their tax dollars going for something like this.

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Their tax dollars should not be going for this. The article talked about a donation not taxes.

Yes. Without an increase in a school’s endowment several schools can fall out of need blind to need aware.

My son’s college has a relatively small endowment compared to its peer schools (due to the fact it has been co-Ed since it’s inception in the mid 1800’s and their peer schools, which were all male until the mid 70’s.) Men have always made more money than women so the Harvard’s, Yale’s and Williams of the world had a head start.

His college is catching up and is need blind and guarantees 100% of need met, except for those accepted off the waitlist, if there is a waitlist.

I’m surprised Johns Hopkins has a “relatively” small endowment compared to its peer schools.

One other thing people need to be aware of - the school determines your need, not you. And what you think your need is and what the schools think your need are two different things.

As I’ve said, it’s complicated.