No college football this year?

Zander · 2020-08-11T04:07:15.772Z

So depressing.

SpacemanSpiff · 2020-08-11T22:19:08.926Z

Well now the the PAC 12 and Big 10 have bowed out. Are you antimask knuckleheads proud of yourselves? Are the “let’s open right now!” crowd proud of yourselves? If you’d just done what was recommended and not cried about “ muh freeberty!” we just might be looking at the start of the college football season. As of now there will be no three months (or longer depending on the post season) of being able to hate on Ohio State. No slamming a couple cups of coffee to stay up and watch the 11:00 PM Oregon kickoff.
And every year for about the last ten years I’ve had a tradition on the Thursday evening game played before the big official start on the following Saturday. I’d make myself an obscenely large pile of hot wings, and have a large amount of beer on hand. (Homebrew if I had some made up, store bought if I didn’t). Then I’d drunk dial friends and family to cheer about the start of college football season. And now that ain’t happening. Proud of yourselves?

Chris · 2020-08-11T23:27:48.862Z

I wonder what the NFL season is going to be like this year.

STODR · 2020-08-17T16:29:58.650Z

Let’s compare:

Football-athletes are secluded in a dorm, get tested regularly, have access to medical professionals 24 hrs a day.

Non-football- living at home or in dorm going out to bars, sororities frat houses doing general college things.

Which is safer?

Most ironic thing is teen age girls can make a choice to have an abortion, but teenage athletes can not be trusted to make a decision to play or not.

westaussie · 2020-08-17T16:40:06.169Z

Do the athletes go to lectures, tutorials?

GrandWazoo · 2020-08-24T02:51:00.766Z

Los Angeles Times – 15 Aug 20

Commentary: There's a path to playing college football. Clearly, lawyers have...

With no player-led movements calling for coronavirus safeguards, lawyers for the SEC, Big-12 and ACC are comfortable with holding a college football season.

The ultimate answer to everything. Bring in the lawyers.

Notre Dame and UNC tried to open-up and it only took a week for both to shut down and close both campuses.

The only good idea I have seen is the bubble. It has certainly been successful for the NBA. And while the NFL is not going total bubble, it did allow players to op-out.
And if I am a college player how has a good shot at the NFL, do I op-out and go for the draft?
And then you have growing groups like the parents who have kids playing at Nebraska who are saying if they don’t get the right answers they are going to file a law suit.
I think this circus still has a few more acts to play out.
Film at eleven.

Safiel · 2020-08-24T03:24:04.650Z

This is the perfect time to do what I have long supported.

END all varsity college sports End all sports scholarships. Let each and every professional sports leagues recruit from a farm system as Major League Baseball does.

Get colleges out of sports and purely focused on education.

I would permit purely intramural sports that are more focused on the recreational and physical fitness aspects for the student.

Toll_Collector · 2020-08-24T03:49:17.797Z

Chris:

I wonder what the NFL season is going to be like this year.

So far it’s a go. No bubble, and some teams will allow a limited amount of fans.

hwyflier · 2020-08-24T04:02:53.796Z

STODR:

Let’s compare:

Football-athletes are secluded in a dorm, get tested regularly, have access to medical professionals 24 hrs a day.

Non-football- living at home or in dorm going out to bars, sororities frat houses doing general college things.

Which is safer?

Most ironic thing is teen age girls can make a choice to have an abortion, but teenage athletes can not be trusted to make a decision to play or not.

I’ve been seeing a lot of this lately.

Missing: Any mention of education.

If you’re going to put them in a bubble secluded from all pretenses getting an education, pay them.

hwyflier · 2020-08-24T04:20:24.549Z

Safiel:

END all varsity college sports End all sports scholarships. Let each and every professional sports leagues recruit from a farm system as Major League Baseball does.

Get colleges out of sports and purely focused on education.

If you snapped your fingers and that happened tomorrow, what does that even look like?

Do SEC schools just sell off their educational facilities and become European style athletic clubs instead?

Safiel · 2020-08-24T04:22:05.604Z

hwyflier:

Safiel:

END all varsity college sports End all sports scholarships. Let each and every professional sports leagues recruit from a farm system as Major League Baseball does.

Get colleges out of sports and purely focused on education.

If you snapped your fingers and that happened tomorrow, what does that even look like?

Do SEC schools just sell off their educational facilities and become European style athletic clubs instead?

They can sell their athletic facilities to farm teams or rent them for use by farm teams or for other uses.

Safiel · 2020-08-24T04:23:46.866Z

There is something just plain ■■■■■■■ wrong about the fact that in a number of States, the highest paid public official is a Head Football Coach.

hwyflier · 2020-08-24T04:27:36.406Z

Safiel:

They can sell their athletic facilities to farm teams or rent them for use by farm teams or for other uses.

I’m truly clueless in the financials here, but the football mafia has convinced me that their revenues prop up the whole system.

Locally, our $175 million dollar downtown stadium addition continues at speed. Takes up all that space, gets used a few times a year.

A few years ago there was talk about moving the football stadium and basketball arena 10 miles east into open land, and placing an expanded medical school in their place. Nearly all factors said that was a great idea, except the “but muh football goes there” factor.

I agree with what you say, but I have no concept of how it could even be possible.

Safiel · 2020-08-24T04:30:14.904Z

hwyflier:

Safiel:

They can sell their athletic facilities to farm teams or rent them for use by farm teams or for other uses.

I’m truly clueless in the financials here, but the football mafia has convinced me that their revenues prop up the whole system.

Locally, our $175 million dollar downtown stadium addition continues at speed. Takes up all that space, gets used a few times a year.

A few years ago there was talk about moving the football stadium and basketball arena 10 miles east into open land, and placing an expanded medical school in their place. Nearly all factors said that was a great idea, except the “but muh football goes there” factor.

I agree with what you say, but I have no concept of how it could even be possible.

I will admit it will not be easy to implement by any means.

hwyflier · 2020-08-24T04:33:54.351Z

To help answer myself:

The Longhorns program had more than $219 million in annual operating revenue and total operating expenses of just over $206.5 million during its 2018 fiscal year, according to its new annual financial report to the NCAA.

Well, hell. This might be easier than I thought. Owning hospitals and land is way better than more football.

mccoyfan · 2020-08-24T04:42:26.482Z

Let them play virtually.

Players control their representative selves by means of a avatar player and individual toggle controls.

Refs will make sure the corresponding player to the avatar is the proper one assigned

Safiel · 2020-08-24T04:49:21.466Z

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Legacy Stadium. A $70 Million HIGH SCHOOL stadium in Texas.

The somewhat more subdued stadium at my high school.

STODR · 2020-08-24T11:47:01.342Z

You mean like having class online like colleges are doing? Or the fact many off them already have private tutors? But even if they don’t have those things, how is now being out more and less access to medical facilities better?

hwyflier · 2020-08-24T23:31:40.621Z

STODR:

You mean like having class online like colleges are doing? Or the fact many off them already have private tutors? But even if they don’t have those things, how is now being out more and less access to medical facilities better?

I think your first post was more honest, I’m not faulting you, as I’ve said, it’s heard and seen in many places elsewhere too.

No one has ever wondered what their offensive line’s GPA is.

Seems like college covid bubbles have just made the obvious even more so. Pay them.

TriggerWarning · 2020-08-25T16:16:08.185Z

Safiel:

There is something just plain ■■■■■■■ wrong about the fact that in a number of States, the highest paid public official is a Head Football Coach.

In principle it sounds bad but . . . . Alabama’s football program brought in 111 million in 2018-2019, 48 million of which was pure profit (meaning this number comes after paying Nick Saban’s nine million dollar salary). Find a professor anywhere at any college who brings in 48 million in pure profit.

To use a less extreme example from my state. Boise State brought in 4.5 million in pure profit after their coaches 1.5 million salary (he’s the highest paid in my state). Once again find a professor who brings in 4.5 million in profit.

Colleges only survive off of football. The sheer amount of profit most of them bring pays for a whole lot at the school. It keeps all the athletic programs afloat because outside of some mens basketball teams they all lose money, especially female athletics. It pays for many salaries of professors and other employees at the school.

Pay your coach less and you get a lesser coach and you then win less which means less revenue. Which then means cuts across the board.