NJ schools are going to teach gender identity to 2nd graders

conan · 2022-04-09T16:32:56.373Z

This should be interest.

WuWei · 2022-04-09T16:34:44.280Z

tnt:

WuWei:

By mocking your use of it to separate and elevate.

I’m not sure what you are looking for here…I would love for there to be no need for labels for these folks…but as long as people label them freaks and deviants and worse, there is a need to take control of their identity…to brand them a different way. To be able to explain, no, they aren’t ‘freaks’, they are ‘gay’ or ‘trans’ or whatever.

Maybe someday it won’t be required, but that ain’t today.

Why is your opinion more valid than the people who feel differently?

Janet_Miller · 2022-04-09T16:35:04.931Z

Pretty soon a trip to the bathroom in NJ elementary schools will be a complicated mess, much like this:

Liberty323 · 2022-04-09T16:41:46.678Z

WuWei:

Generations of Woke Morons. It’s a goal.

Link

More easily controlled future generations, willing to give up their rights for the “greater good”.

WuWei · 2022-04-09T16:42:36.001Z

The New Sensibility

STODR · 2022-04-09T16:44:12.073Z

Against before you were for it or just lied about it?

Desantis Protect Parental Rights in Education Politics

This is what I said to you then: So…I never said I was for sex ed in k-3. Glad we could clear that up.

Eagle-Keeper · 2022-04-09T16:45:46.008Z

tnt:

WuWei:

No, by making doctrine for public schools to tell them. You can tell your kids whatever you want. You don’t get to tell my kids anything about it.

Nothing.

I think it’s perfectly appropriate for a school to hold the position that every kid in their charge is cared for, and loved, and respected, and to encourage every kid in their charge to be OK with who they are.

And it’s perfectly reasonable for parents to say that someone else’s personal issues are none of their ■■■■■■■ business nor is it their child’s business.

Secondly as stated before that’s my child and my tax dollars and that I have every ■■■■■■■ right to object to anything my child is being taught.

Finally about this concern that trans kids are going to be bullied. First of all the likelihood of knowingly coming in contact with such a person is virtually zero. I worked in education for 20 years and during that time there was 0 trans kids I knowingky came in contact with. Secondly all these types of issues can easily be handled in a schools discipline and bullying policies. Very simple, students are not to pick on anyone for any reason.

WuWei · 2022-04-09T16:48:19.125Z

Great thread.

Eagle-Keeper · 2022-04-09T16:50:38.965Z

Just wait till more and more parents in NJ find about this!

WuWei · 2022-04-09T16:53:59.752Z

The title of Maryland’s program is very telling;

conforming youth: guidelines for gender identity non-discrimination

Oldandtired · 2022-04-09T16:55:27.571Z

Couldn’t have said it better.

Call_me_Ishmael · 2022-04-09T16:58:29.093Z

Jezcoe:

tnt:

bigtwnvin:

It’s the progs inability to foresee and denial that unintended consequences exist. They’re such ■■■■■■■ morons.

What are the unintended consequences of telling kids:

“And you might not feel like you’re a boy or a girl, but you’re a little bit of both. No matter how you feel, you’re perfectly normal!”

???

Sounds monstrous.

Inducing a mental illness into children for long term political advantage is exactly that… monstrous.

WuWei · 2022-04-09T17:03:14.204Z

It’s not talked about much in history books. Right after the civil war, as part of reconstruction, the government flooded the south with certain skills. Among the first were school teachers.

The goal was to indoctrinate the next generation, instilling a new sensibility. To impose the new values on a defeated populace. Mores. To make sure it never happened again.

Of course the fear was very real.

Crits do the same thing, for the same noble motivation. “Fascism”, to use one word to cover it all, must be constantly battled, even if it no longer exists, lest it return. Constant crisis.

You can hear it if you listen to them. They use the dog whistle buzzwords over and over. Bush was a fascist. Trump was a fascist. The comparisons to Hitler. “Bigot” - like a 1963 Alabama sheriff. “Racist”.

If you don’t think homosexual/trans are “normal”, you’re a hateful homophobe.

(By the way crits - if they are called “gays”, why am I still a “homophobe”?)

It’s a very interesting phenomenon.

Auto129 · 2022-04-09T17:09:46.192Z

Rodeo:

How about we teach reading, writing and arithmetic to 2nd graders?

Eagle-Keeper:

No matter how you feel, you’re perfectly normal!”

Is just as important.

GWH · 2022-04-09T17:12:23.861Z

Another lib dodge.

tnt · 2022-04-09T17:15:10.407Z

Im not sure it is. This is the process, right? At one time we were having these discussions about womens right to vote, Jim Crow, gay marriage….and other things too…Aca tax cuts everything.

Things change because people start to see things differently. They start pushing for change. Sometimes it happens sometimes it doesn’t.

On the whole I think we change for the better but it’s hard and takes time and is ofeten mey with similar objects as to what we’re seeing here.

It’s the way of things.

And on this topic as I’ve said I’m not sure at what age these talks should happen but it’s really not outrageous to thing teachers should tell kids that are ok. They aren’t weirdos or freaks because they feel different from others about this stuff.

But it’s a tough subject especially for - all due respect - older people. And if you aren’t aware of a family ember or loved one who has dealt with this stuff it’s easy to thing it’s much ado about nothing. And on the other hand once you see it first hand I think people thing differently about it.

Anywho…let me guess your response:

No.

Auto129 · 2022-04-09T17:15:13.270Z

Smyrna:

Harmless…what an ignorant conclusion. This is the perfect example of one only seeing the pebble hit the water today but unable to see the ripples going out from there to future tomorrows. Are you ready? Here’s one ripple from teaching this; an increase in suicides, drug use and depression. I can hear those ignorant today of what’s coming stating later on, “there’s no correlation”.

That’s mostly going to come from parental failure. This is a positive message of validation, something that shouldn’t be new to an 8 year old anyway.

tnt · 2022-04-09T17:15:43.577Z

This isn’t indoctrination.

This is not happening in nj yet, correct?

GWH · 2022-04-09T17:16:06.572Z

Sknyluv:

GWH:

Or do it without discussing the penis and vagina.

That’s sex, not gender.

A boy that thinks he’s a girl…how does he start off as a boy?

tnt · 2022-04-09T17:17:22.833Z

That of course is not my position.

My point is you are calling the kids of forum members and forum members themselves freaks and perverts and that’s ■■■■■■■ rude.

It’s no more complicated than that.