Nike: Betsy Ross Flag vs the Stars and Bars . . . Confederate flag wins?

It is absolutely mind numbing that the pin heads at Nike would intentionally recall a shoe featuring the Betsy Ross flag because it allegedly glorifies slavery and racism. Could it be that Nike may secretly embrace the Stars and Bars, which is the actual flag which flew in opposition to ending slavery and the United States?

Let us review some historical facts for the nitwits at Nike and regarding slavery in America.

Slavery was first introduced on America soil in the early 1600s when a number of slaves were brought to Jamestown, Virginia, a British colony. And millions more were introduced long before the establishment of the United States and its flag.

It was in 1776 and the Revolutionary War, and under what is believed to be a war fought under a Betsy Ross flag, that the good people of America gained their independence from foreign domination [the real culprit of slavery on American soil] and upon gaining their independence the people within a number of the states, exercising their newly found freedom, immediately moved to share the blessings of liberty to all by abolishing slavery!

For example, the people of Vermont took this immediate action in their 1777 declaration of rights, which declared “no … person born in this country, or brought here over sea, ought to beholden by law to serve any person as a servant, slave, or apprentice”. Likewise, the Massachusetts Constitution of 1780 declared that “all men are born free and equal” and was used by the court a few years after its adoption to legally forbid any person to be held as a slave. And, in 1787, the Northwest Ordinance, adopted by the Confederation Congress on July 13, 1787, declared “there shall be neither slavery nor involuntary servitude in the said Territory, otherwise than in the punishment of crimes whereof the party shall have been duly convicted.”

By the year 1788 all the states north of Maryland, except New York and New Jersey, had legislated to extinguish slavery, and by 1804 the remaining two northern states [N.Y. and N.J.] had put slavery to rest.

The truth is, the injustice of slavery was not an injustice inflicted or perpetrated by the government of the United States. Quite the contrary! Upon the creation of the United States government, as witnessed by Article 1, Sec. 2, Clause 3, of the Constitution of the United States, an aversion to slavery was expressed by a specific penalty imposed upon those states having state sponsored slavery. Unfortunately, the constitutional penalty for state-sponsored slavery has been distorted and mischaracterized over the years by race baiters and hustlers who claim the provision “made blacks three-fifths of a person.” But a review of the actual words of Article 1, Sec. 2, clause 3, reveals slave holding states were penalized by this provision which denied them full representation in Congress in proportion to their actual population size—the population of slaves not being fully counted when apportioning representatives among the states, which diminished the voting strength of slave holding states in Congress Assembled!

And then there’s Article 1, Section 9 of our original Constitution by which slavery was intended to be taxed into extinction by the federal government.

”The Migration or Importation of such Persons as any of the States now existing shall think proper to admit, shall not be prohibited by the Congress prior to the Year one thousand eight hundred and eight, but a Tax or duty may be imposed on such Importation, not exceeding ten dollars for each Person.”

Unfortunately, slavery did persist in America after the Revolutionary War, but it did so in a number of southern states and resulted in the War between the States, a war fought under two different flags, the Confederal Flag, and the United States flag which evolved from the Betsy Ross flag and eventually put slavery to rest in the southern states!

So why are the nitwits at Nike pulling a shoe with a flag that resembles the first flag of the United States ___ a flag under which America’s independence was won, a flag representing the northern states which defeated the South, put an end to slavery, and replaced the Confederate flag in the South? Does Niki secretly yearn to see the Confederate flag replace the Betsy Ross flag? Or, are the bone heads at Nike merely victims of a government school eduction/indoctrination?


The Democrat Party Leadership has been angry, stupid and obnoxious ever since the Republican Party Leadership freed democrat owned slaves. ___ Author unknown


What exactly are you trying to say here?

That the colonists were slaves under foreign domination or that foreign domination was responsible for slavery. Both seem to be nonsensical.

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Georgia still uses the Stars and Bars as it’s state flag. It’s nearly an exact replica. And nobody cares.


Nike is informed that the people that they market the shoes towards probably won’t buy the shoes because reasons.

Nike changes the design of the shoes.



Without agreeing with johnwk2’s full line of reasoning

Both Nike and the people pushing for recall of these shoes are pinheads.

Nike for being cowardly enough to do it.

And the people pushing for the recall for being ******* stupid enough to push for the recall.


Plenty of people care. They have been trying to get various Southern state flags changed for decades now because of their overt callbacks to Confederate imagery.

Capitalism an d the free market give them the liberty to be ******* stupid.

It doesn’t JUSTIFY their stupidity.

I could be wrong. I think the shoes were already produced. They didn’t think ahead. Since they are not going to sell them, maybe they should give them away to the inner city and Rural poor? That would be a nice gesture.

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Capitalism is full of stupidity.

Hence a pair of shoes that costs $20 to manufacture costs $120.

Look at it this way.

Any of the shoes that do get out in the wild will be worth thousands.


They won’t.

You know that when some stores can’t sell clothes they destroy them?


Yeah. Sad.

Nike should push back saying we should not allow the White Nationalist types monopolize an American icon.

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This is absolutely true.

Next comes the consumer’s response to the business decision. And we all hold our respective opinions about all sorts of companies’ business decisions, and those opinions impact (or not!) our consumer decisions.

And that’s how the market works.

Always has. Always should.

BTW, more troubling to me than Nike’s business decision are the “reasons” (in this particular case) that people would eschew this shoe.

Correct. But Georgia rarely gets any mention. Should they change their flag? Of course. Following tradition, if you lose a war, your colors come down. You don’t bring them down only to raise them again 50 years later.

I wrote exactly what I meant to say!


In every communist dictatorial oppressive country, like Cuba, China, and Venezuela, the people are disarmed. Forewarned is forearmed.

You are conflating two different concepts and thus your point falls as logically invalid.

The free market is a different concept from capitalism. Paying an exorbitant sum for something, when no constraints on the free market exist, is not a defect of the free market, rather it is an inheritant result of the free market due to humans vastly different value system and the fact that humans may place a far higher subjective value on an item than what “rational thought” may dictate.

If a seller can command a high price for an object such as shoes, that is no defect in the free market, but solely due to humans ability to act in impulsive and sometimes irrational manners.



You are again conflating two concepts, this time capitalism and private property rights.

Private property rights dictate Nike can dispose of their property however they ****** see fit, no matter how stupid or irrational the reason seems to you.


Couldn’t agree more. Using their logic, George Washington was alive during that time, and his name harkens back to a time when slavery was legal. We need to tear down the Washington monument, rename the state and the capitol!

What a â– â– â– â– â– â– â–  moron and moronic decision.

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Kaep strikes again. That guy really triggers people.