New Zealand: "Our gun laws will change." Why them and not us?

And you are? Are you talking about the founders?

… there are still gun laws.

It’s a truth history substantiates.

Sorry…but I don’t believe you.

I will not put my faith in goverment to insure our freedoms…specially after what we witness over the years.

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In your gun tot’en dreams.

No delegated power given the federal for it in the Constitution, for one.

No, in history.

That’s a myth created out of paranoia.

Yet another truth supported by history. As individuals we have less freedom from than at any other time in the history of this country. That’s not debatable.

Are they governed by the same words:

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Do they have in their constitution that the right to OWN and BEAR arms shall NOT be infringed?

If they don’t, then there you go, you have your answer.

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The myth is guns are the only way.

Highlighted: Purely personal opinion.

Nobody ever said guns are the only way. They are however, a way, and sometimes it comes to that. Many times in fact.

Again: history. Over and over and over.

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Not hardly. That is a cold hard fact.

Ok, if you say so. :smirk:

It is an objective fact. Not because I say so.

Cool story, bro.

Not cool at all, sis. A true story.

But you don’t get to impose your opinion.

They do. It’s not as strong as ours legally, but it has a bill of rights and ever’thing……

A non sequitur and a straw man…a twofer.

Clever you.