New study shows natural immunity is vastly better than that from vaccines

[Jezcoe]

@zantax

Still irrelevant in regard to excluding people with better immunity while allowing those with lesser immunity to do things. Pretty sure the judicial system will correct it shortly though. Since there is no reasonable benefit to the public health.

I have this feeling that since the Isreali study did not look at confounding factors and was a small sample that we may see a regression to the mean and the effect not look so large. Just a hunch… but it is not great to base things off of a single study. If the size of the effect is consistent with future studies then I will happily be wrong.

There is zero reason that people should not be getting vaccinated.

A public health mitigation strategy… because we do have those things in this reality… is to make exclusionary incentives. One has to choice to not get vaccinated… they just have to get take out.

[zantax]

@Jezcoe

@zantax

Still irrelevant in regard to excluding people with better immunity while allowing those with lesser immunity to do things. Pretty sure the judicial system will correct it shortly though. Since there is no reasonable benefit to the public health.

I have this feeling that since the Isreali study did not look at confounding factors and was a small sample that we may see a regression to the mean and the effect not look so large. Just a hunch… but it is not great to base things off of a single study. If the size of the effect is consistent with future studies then I will happily be wrong.

There is zero reason that people should not be getting vaccinated.

A public health mitigation strategy… because we do have those things in this reality… is to make exclusionary incentives. One has to choice to not get vaccinated… they just have to get take out.

Hardly one study, sorry.

Lasting immunity found after recovery from COVID-19

[Jezcoe]

@zantax

@Jezcoe

@zantax

Still irrelevant in regard to excluding people with better immunity while allowing those with lesser immunity to do things. Pretty sure the judicial system will correct it shortly though. Since there is no reasonable benefit to the public health.

I have this feeling that since the Isreali study did not look at confounding factors and was a small sample that we may see a regression to the mean and the effect not look so large. Just a hunch… but it is not great to base things off of a single study. If the size of the effect is consistent with future studies then I will happily be wrong.

There is zero reason that people should not be getting vaccinated.

A public health mitigation strategy… because we do have those things in this reality… is to make exclusionary incentives. One has to choice to not get vaccinated… they just have to get take out.

Hardly one study, sorry.

Lasting immunity found after recovery from COVID-19 | National Institutes of Health (NIH)

That study doesn’t say anything about it being “better”

[zantax]

@Jezcoe

@zantax

@Jezcoe

@zantax

Still irrelevant in regard to excluding people with better immunity while allowing those with lesser immunity to do things. Pretty sure the judicial system will correct it shortly though. Since there is no reasonable benefit to the public health.

I have this feeling that since the Isreali study did not look at confounding factors and was a small sample that we may see a regression to the mean and the effect not look so large. Just a hunch… but it is not great to base things off of a single study. If the size of the effect is consistent with future studies then I will happily be wrong.

There is zero reason that people should not be getting vaccinated.

A public health mitigation strategy… because we do have those things in this reality… is to make exclusionary incentives. One has to choice to not get vaccinated… they just have to get take out.

Hardly one study, sorry.

Lasting immunity found after recovery from COVID-19 | National Institutes of Health (NIH)

That study doesn’t say anything about it being “better”

Yes it does, at the time they were hoping vaccination would be as good or better, now we know they aren’t. Declined only moderately after six to eight months, how’s that working out in comparison to the vaccines? Oh and link to more studies at the bottom.

[johnwk2]

@Jezcoe

@johnwk2

Leave it the New York City’s nitwitted leadership to use the iron fist of government to screw over their residents.

As an NYC resident… I like that everyone in the bar and the restaurant is vaccinated.

Well, goodie for you. Of course, that vaccinated person next to you, who was vaccinated four or five months ago and recently was re-infected, will in all probability infect someone before the night is ended.

NYC’s mandate__ No Vax, No Service ___ is insane and ignores the science, by actually encouraging the fully vaccinated, who are symptom free but infected and can spread the virus, to go about and enjoy public accommodations and spread the virus, while those who have natural immunity, and are virus free, are discriminated against by government and prohibited from going about their daily activities.

If we are really trying to prevent spreading the virus in public, it seems logical to me showing proof of being covid free, at least within the past few days, as opposed to proving you had the vaccine, is far more effective.

A rapid Covid-19 test coupled with a quick check for symptoms would provide far greater protection than showing proof one has had the vaccine in the past, even months in the past, and could very will have since been re-infected and is likely to spread the virus.

Let’s try keeping with the science.

JWK

The citizens of the United States paid little attention while their tyrannical federal government gave aid and comfort to hundreds of thousands of foreign nationals invading their country.

[zantax]

It’s clearly not about the science, it’s about punishing.

[Jezcoe]

@zantax

@Jezcoe

@zantax

@Jezcoe

@zantax

Still irrelevant in regard to excluding people with better immunity while allowing those with lesser immunity to do things. Pretty sure the judicial system will correct it shortly though. Since there is no reasonable benefit to the public health.

I have this feeling that since the Isreali study did not look at confounding factors and was a small sample that we may see a regression to the mean and the effect not look so large. Just a hunch… but it is not great to base things off of a single study. If the size of the effect is consistent with future studies then I will happily be wrong.

There is zero reason that people should not be getting vaccinated.

A public health mitigation strategy… because we do have those things in this reality… is to make exclusionary incentives. One has to choice to not get vaccinated… they just have to get take out.

Hardly one study, sorry.

Lasting immunity found after recovery from COVID-19 | National Institutes of Health (NIH)

That study doesn’t say anything about it being “better”

Yes it does, at the time they were hoping vaccination would be as good or better, now we know they aren’t. Declined only moderately after six to eight months, how’s that working out in comparison to the vaccines? Oh and link to more studies at the bottom.

That study you linked to was from January… before Delta.

[zantax]

@Jezcoe

@zantax

@Jezcoe

@zantax

@Jezcoe

@zantax

Still irrelevant in regard to excluding people with better immunity while allowing those with lesser immunity to do things. Pretty sure the judicial system will correct it shortly though. Since there is no reasonable benefit to the public health.

I have this feeling that since the Isreali study did not look at confounding factors and was a small sample that we may see a regression to the mean and the effect not look so large. Just a hunch… but it is not great to base things off of a single study. If the size of the effect is consistent with future studies then I will happily be wrong.

There is zero reason that people should not be getting vaccinated.

A public health mitigation strategy… because we do have those things in this reality… is to make exclusionary incentives. One has to choice to not get vaccinated… they just have to get take out.

Hardly one study, sorry.

Lasting immunity found after recovery from COVID-19 | National Institutes of Health (NIH)

That study doesn’t say anything about it being “better”

Yes it does, at the time they were hoping vaccination would be as good or better, now we know they aren’t. Declined only moderately after six to eight months, how’s that working out in comparison to the vaccines? Oh and link to more studies at the bottom.

That study you linked to was from January… before Delta.

And? Were people vaccinated against Delta? Want to go out on a limb and predict who is better protected against delta, a delta survivor or someone with a vaccine against pre variant covid?

[Jezcoe]

@johnwk2

@Jezcoe

@johnwk2

Leave it the New York City’s nitwitted leadership to use the iron fist of government to screw over their residents.

As an NYC resident… I like that everyone in the bar and the restaurant is vaccinated.

Well, goodie for you. Of course, that vaccinated person next to you, who was vaccinated four or five months ago and recently was re-infected, will in all probability infect someone before the night is ended.

NYC’s mandate__ No Vax, No Service ___ is insane and ignores the science, by actually encouraging the fully vaccinated, who are symptom free but infected and can spread the virus, to go about and enjoy public accommodations and spread the virus, while those who have natural immunity, and are virus free, are discriminated against by government and prohibited from going about their daily activities.

If we are really trying to prevent spreading the virus in public, it seems logical to me showing proof of being covid free, at least within the past few days, as opposed to proving you had the vaccine, is far more effective.

A rapid Covid-19 test coupled with a quick check for symptoms would provide far greater protection than showing proof one has had the vaccine in the past, even months in the past, and could very will have since been re-infected and is likely to spread the virus.

Let’s try keeping with the science.

JWK

The citizens of the United States paid little attention while their tyrannical federal government gave aid and comfort to hundreds of thousands of foreign nationals invading their country.

A bar full of vaccinated people will be far less likely to have someone infected of covid in it than a bar that is half vaccinated and half unvaccinated.

As far as a Rapid test. They take 30 minutes and can give inconclusive results.

[zantax]

I mean it’s starting to look to me like the currently logical thing to do is go out and do my best to catch covid after I get a booster.

[Jezcoe]

@zantax

It’s clearly not about the science, it’s about punishing.

I am sure that you believe that to be true

[zantax]

@Jezcoe

@zantax

It’s clearly not about the science, it’s about punishing.

I am sure that you believe that to be true

What’s the other logical reason? All ears.

[johnwk2]

@Jezcoe

That study you linked to was from January… before Delta.

Monday, August 30, 2021

A newly published medical study found that infection from COVID-19 confers considerably longer-lasting and stronger protection against the Delta variant of the virus than vaccines.

[Jezcoe]

@zantax

@Jezcoe

@zantax

It’s clearly not about the science, it’s about punishing.

I am sure that you believe that to be true

What’s the other logical reason? All ears.

it’s a disease mitigation strategy.

[zantax]

@Jezcoe

@zantax

@Jezcoe

@zantax

It’s clearly not about the science, it’s about punishing.

I am sure that you believe that to be true

What’s the other logical reason? All ears.

it’s a disease mitigation strategy.

To punish people for not taking the vaccine, whether or not they are more protected than people who got the vaccine, I know.

[Jezcoe]

@johnwk2

@Jezcoe

That study you linked to was from January… before Delta.

Monday, August 30, 2021

A newly published medical study found that infection from COVID-19 confers considerably longer-lasting and stronger protection against the Delta variant of the virus than vaccines.

And being vaccinated on top of that is even better.

[zantax]

@Jezcoe

@johnwk2

@Jezcoe

That study you linked to was from January… before Delta.

Monday, August 30, 2021

A newly published medical study found that infection from COVID-19 confers considerably longer-lasting and stronger protection against the Delta variant of the virus than vaccines.

And being vaccinated on top of that is even better.

And for the vaccinated, getting covid on top of it most likely improves their immunity.

[Jezcoe]

@zantax

@Jezcoe

@zantax

@Jezcoe

@zantax

It’s clearly not about the science, it’s about punishing.

I am sure that you believe that to be true

What’s the other logical reason? All ears.

it’s a disease mitigation strategy.

To punish people for not taking the vaccine, whether or not they are more protected than people who got the vaccine, I know.

There is no good reason to not be vaccinated if one has no health issue that prevents them from it.

Even with previous infection.

People should get vaccinated.

[zantax]

@Jezcoe

@zantax

@Jezcoe

@zantax

@Jezcoe

@zantax

It’s clearly not about the science, it’s about punishing.

I am sure that you believe that to be true

What’s the other logical reason? All ears.

it’s a disease mitigation strategy.

To punish people for not taking the vaccine, whether or not they are more protected than people who got the vaccine, I know.

There is no good reason to not be vaccinated if one has no health issue that prevents them from it.

Even with previous infection.

People should get vaccinated.

Thank you for your opinion, which medical school did you graduate from so I know which container to file it in?

[johnwk2]

@Jezcoe

@johnwk2

@Jezcoe

@johnwk2

Leave it the New York City’s nitwitted leadership to use the iron fist of government to screw over their residents.

As an NYC resident… I like that everyone in the bar and the restaurant is vaccinated.

Well, goodie for you. Of course, that vaccinated person next to you, who was vaccinated four or five months ago and recently was re-infected, will in all probability infect someone before the night is ended.

NYC’s mandate__ No Vax, No Service ___ is insane and ignores the science, by actually encouraging the fully vaccinated, who are symptom free but infected and can spread the virus, to go about and enjoy public accommodations and spread the virus, while those who have natural immunity, and are virus free, are discriminated against by government and prohibited from going about their daily activities.

If we are really trying to prevent spreading the virus in public, it seems logical to me showing proof of being covid free, at least within the past few days, as opposed to proving you had the vaccine, is far more effective.

A rapid Covid-19 test coupled with a quick check for symptoms would provide far greater protection than showing proof one has had the vaccine in the past, even months in the past, and could very will have since been re-infected and is likely to spread the virus.

Let’s try keeping with the science.

JWK

The citizens of the United States paid little attention while their tyrannical federal government gave aid and comfort to hundreds of thousands of foreign nationals invading their country.

A bar full of vaccinated people will be far less likely to have someone infected of covid in it than a bar that is half vaccinated and half unvaccinated.

So, “less likely” is your standard rather than following the science? Why would you discriminate against those who are COVID free, and embrace those who are vaccinated and COVID infected? Is there something in New York’s water which has affected your thinking?

JWK

JWK