New Jersey feel good plastic bag law

[Toll_Collector]

@floydefisher

IIRC, the ban is for grocery stores only. Other stores (like restaurants) can still do what they want for bags.

They can still use single use paper bags, but not plastic.

https://www.nj.gov/dep/get-past-plastic/

[Camp]

I thought it was the entire LGBTQIRA+ and Green Climate agenda with a pandemic on the side…

[Samm]

@Jezcoe

@Samm

@zantax

Some people like being under the illusion it gets recycled.

Yep, just like they want to believe that the electricity for their electric cars doesn’t come from carbon fuels.

The point is to make it so that is not the reality… to generate electricity from renewable as much as possible.

Personally I think that natural gas should be the transition fuel going to that.

How is natural gas a “transition fuel”? The products of combustion (in addition to water vapor) emitted from natural gas-fired boilers and furnaces include nitrogen oxides (NOx), carbon monoxide (CO), and carbon dioxide (CO2), methane (CH4), nitrous oxide (N2O), volatile organic compounds (VOCs), trace amounts of sulfur dioxide (SO2), and particulate matter (PM).

1.4_natural_gas_combustion.pdf

[Samm]

@NJBob

@Jezcoe

@Samm

@zantax

Some people like being under the illusion it gets recycled.

Yep, just like they want to believe that the electricity for their electric cars doesn’t come from carbon fuels.

The point is to make it so that is not the reality… to generate electricity from renewable as much as possible.

Personally I think that natural gas should be the transition fuel going to that.

Here’s an interesting milestone.

This from Yahoo News yesterday:

Power generated by wind turbines in the United States hit a milestone last week, becoming the second-highest source of electricity in the country for a 24-hour period, according to the Energy Information Administration.

Wind turbines generated more than 2,000 gigawatt-hours of electricity in the U.S. on Tuesday, March 29, more than was provided by nuclear and coal power plants that day. Wind power, which is renewable and does not release greenhouse gases into the atmosphere, still trailed the electricity produced by natural gas, but it was the first time in U.S. history that wind turbines outperformed nuclear and coal power.

What’s being done to address the mounting problem of worn out wind turbine blades?

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2020-02-05/wind-turbine-blades-can-t-be-recycled-so-they-re-piling-up-in-landfills

[Jezcoe]

@Samm

@Jezcoe

@Samm

@zantax

Some people like being under the illusion it gets recycled.

Yep, just like they want to believe that the electricity for their electric cars doesn’t come from carbon fuels.

The point is to make it so that is not the reality… to generate electricity from renewable as much as possible.

Personally I think that natural gas should be the transition fuel going to that.

How is natural gas a “transition fuel”? The products of combustion (in addition to water vapor) emitted from natural gas-fired boilers and furnaces include nitrogen oxides (NOx), carbon monoxide (CO), and carbon dioxide (CO2), methane (CH4), nitrous oxide (N2O), volatile organic compounds (VOCs), trace amounts of sulfur dioxide (SO2), and particulate matter (PM).

https://www.epa.gov/sites/default/files/2020-09/documents/1.4_natural_gas_combustion.pdf

Compared to other forms like coal… and this is only in comparison… the carbon footprint and pollution level is lower.

We would still need spot demand energy while the grid gets updated and knowledge base if how the sustainable power generation technologies work at larger and larger scale.

I am not an absolutist. We can’t abandon overnight, but we do need to move away from it sooner rather than later.

[WuWei]

There’s nothing wrong with coal.

[NJBob]

@Samm

@NJBob

@Jezcoe

@Samm

@zantax

Some people like being under the illusion it gets recycled.

Yep, just like they want to believe that the electricity for their electric cars doesn’t come from carbon fuels.

The point is to make it so that is not the reality… to generate electricity from renewable as much as possible.

Personally I think that natural gas should be the transition fuel going to that.

Here’s an interesting milestone.

This from Yahoo News yesterday:

Power generated by wind turbines in the United States hit a milestone last week, becoming the second-highest source of electricity in the country for a 24-hour period, according to the Energy Information Administration.

Wind turbines generated more than 2,000 gigawatt-hours of electricity in the U.S. on Tuesday, March 29, more than was provided by nuclear and coal power plants that day. Wind power, which is renewable and does not release greenhouse gases into the atmosphere, still trailed the electricity produced by natural gas, but it was the first time in U.S. history that wind turbines outperformed nuclear and coal power.

What’s being done to address the mounting problem of worn out wind turbine blades?

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

Cool article, thanks.

Perhaps some clever architect can find a way to use the worn out blades to build housing for the homeless.

[Samm]

@Toll_Collector

@Samm

You have to compare lumines, not wattage.

I’m not saying you’re wrong, but my experience with LEDs is that the lumines from a 60 watt equivalent (for example) LED is greater than from a 60 watt incandescent. Maybe you bought spot lights instead of flood lights …

They are 3000 lumens each. I know what the issue is, and I should have noticed it before buying them. Most of these lights do not give light in every direction similar to a bulb. The light goes down and outward.

What you need is something like this, not the type that look like spotlights.

Or

[Samm]

@NJBob

@Samm

@NJBob

@Jezcoe

@Samm

@zantax

Some people like being under the illusion it gets recycled.

Yep, just like they want to believe that the electricity for their electric cars doesn’t come from carbon fuels.

The point is to make it so that is not the reality… to generate electricity from renewable as much as possible.

Personally I think that natural gas should be the transition fuel going to that.

Here’s an interesting milestone.

This from Yahoo News yesterday:

Power generated by wind turbines in the United States hit a milestone last week, becoming the second-highest source of electricity in the country for a 24-hour period, according to the Energy Information Administration.

Wind turbines generated more than 2,000 gigawatt-hours of electricity in the U.S. on Tuesday, March 29, more than was provided by nuclear and coal power plants that day. Wind power, which is renewable and does not release greenhouse gases into the atmosphere, still trailed the electricity produced by natural gas, but it was the first time in U.S. history that wind turbines outperformed nuclear and coal power.

What’s being done to address the mounting problem of worn out wind turbine blades?

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

Cool article, thanks.

Perhaps some clever architect can find a way to use the worn out blades to build housing for the homeless.

Or use them as corduroy to build roads across swampy ground.

[Samson_Corwell]

@sikofit

Seriously why? You still are bringing bags from home, why the insistence that the bag be plastic? The reasoning lacks logic

Because paper bags suck.

[Samson_Corwell]

@Samm

@Toll_Collector

@Samm

You have to compare lumines, not wattage.

I’m not saying you’re wrong, but my experience with LEDs is that the lumines from a 60 watt equivalent (for example) LED is greater than from a 60 watt incandescent. Maybe you bought spot lights instead of flood lights …

They are 3000 lumens each. I know what the issue is, and I should have noticed it before buying them. Most of these lights do not give light in every direction similar to a bulb. The light goes down and outward.

What you need is something like this, not the type that look like spotlights.

Or

If you go to Walmart, take a glass bulb out from it’s package, and break the glass, what you will find are four glass-coated yellow rods. Those are LEDs that radiate light in all directions.

[Samson_Corwell]

@Samm

@Jezcoe

@Samm

@zantax

Some people like being under the illusion it gets recycled.

Yep, just like they want to believe that the electricity for their electric cars doesn’t come from carbon fuels.

The point is to make it so that is not the reality… to generate electricity from renewable as much as possible.

Personally I think that natural gas should be the transition fuel going to that.

How is natural gas a “transition fuel”? The products of combustion (in addition to water vapor) emitted from natural gas-fired boilers and furnaces include nitrogen oxides (NOx), carbon monoxide (CO), and carbon dioxide (CO2), methane (CH4), nitrous oxide (N2O), volatile organic compounds (VOCs), trace amounts of sulfur dioxide (SO2), and particulate matter (PM).

https://www.epa.gov/sites/default/files/2020-09/documents/1.4_natural_gas_combustion.pdf

Of the three states of matter fossil fuels come in:

• Coal produces the most CO₂.
• Oil produces the median amount of CO₂.
• Natural gas produces the least CO₂.

[Samm]

Yes, but less “dirty” is still dirty, and electric vehicles are not completely “clean.” (Keeping in mind that CO2 is NOT dirt.)

[Samson_Corwell]

@Samm

Yes, but less “dirty” is still dirty, and electric vehicles are not completely “clean.”

Everyone understands that a small quantity is still a non-zero quantity, Samm. Are you expecting us to be deep greens?

[Samm]

@Samson_Corwell

@Samm

Yes, but less “dirty” is still dirty, and electric vehicles are not completely “clean.”

Everyone understands that a small quantity is still a non-zero quantity, Samm. Are you expecting us to be deep greens?

No, I’m expecting people to be fully informed as to the ramifications of what they promote before they force major changes onto the whole of this country.

[WuWei]

Stick to your bags and bulbs! Don’t let them bully you!

[Toll_Collector]

@Samm

What you need is something like this, not the type that look like spotlights.

Apparently so. I like the first one. I have 100W LED lights outside and none of them look like spotlights. They are all bulb shaped and do the job just fine.

[Toll_Collector]

@WuWei

Stick to your bags and bulbs! Don’t let them bully you!

LOL, I am bringing plastic bags to the supermarket. That’s a given. As far as the bulbs go, I’d rather a LED equivalent due to how long they last.

[WuWei]

Use whatever bulb you want. Don’t let these yahoos tell you what you need.

[TheRedComet]

It’s pretty dirty.

Although modern chemical scrubber technology helps out a lot. But it’s still dirtier than natural gas.

I’m a nuclear fan, so I’m rooting primarily for nuclear. Even though financially speaking it doesn’t make sense half of the time due to the enormous start up costs.

Which that part is improving thanks to new compact modular reactor designs.

I think it’ll take a combination of everything for the energy demands of the future. But I can see nuclear, hydro, and solar carrying the heaviest loads.